This Sunday, Mark Driscoll will host Sen. Martha McSally during the 11am service at The Trinity Church where she will give a testimony.
I hope they are on their best behavior. Both McSally and Driscoll are known for their use of foul language. Driscoll famously shamed one of his Mars Hill elders into swearing during an elder meeting, even though the elder didn’t want to do it. He also was once known as the “cussing pastor.”
McSally is also known for her colorful language and brusque manner. When Senators were discussing the repeal of the Affordable Care Act, she stood and signaled her wish to repeal it with an urgent profanity.
Martha McSally stood up in GOP conference meeting and said let's get this "fucking thing" done.
Yes, direct quote — per members and aides.
— Erica Werner (@ericawerner) May 4, 2017
McSally acknowledges she uses “salty” language and, for that reason, refused to condemn Trump’s reference to “shithole” nations. More troubling than the language is Driscoll’s move into advocacy for the Trump agenda.
McSally will be a big draw among Trump supporting Republicans along with the water slides and other attractions at the property. A source close to the church told me that The Trinity Church is not using mitigation measures such as social distancing and masks. So add Driscoll’s church to the growing list of COVID spreading, Trump supporting ministries.
Oh good I was hoping for some reason to continue to respect Driscoll’s leadership and W.T. is giving M.D. some major props. Whenever critics like W.T. say sit down, I stand up. ?
So basically you are saying you are easily controlled/manipulated, your controllers just have to phrase things in the right way.
You got me only because your phrases are impeccable!
And I’ll be staying well away. I know when is the right time to picket, and when isn’t. This ain’t it, folks. That said, it does explain the “you aren’t planning on going out picketing any time soon?” call I got from my ex-boyfriend yesterday. (I told him “of course not” and then told him every place I’d been in the last two weeks and what day it had been on.) Seriously, I have an elderly mother who uses two inhalers, I’m not going to put her health at risk. Especially when the people at Driscoll’s shindig are going to be the hard core of the hard core and pretty much unreachable, in addition to being walking COVID-19 bombs.
Good to hear this. Yes, now is the time to socially distance from COVID-19 super-spreader events while also protecting ourselves from the equally harmful theological toxins of White Nationalist Evangelicalism.
What part of Trump’s Agenda (below) are you against?
JOBS
Create 10 Million New Jobs in 10 Months
Create 1 Million New Small Businesses
Cut Taxes to Boost Take-Home Pay and Keep Jobs in America
Enact Fair Trade Deals that Protect American Jobs
“Made in America” Tax Credits
Expand Opportunity Zones
Continue Deregulatory Agenda for Energy Independence
ERADICATE COVID-19
Develop a Vaccine by The End Of 2020
Return to Normal in 2021
Make All Critical Medicines and Supplies for Healthcare Workers in The United States
Refill Stockpiles and Prepare for Future Pandemics
END OUR RELIANCE ON CHINA
Bring Back 1 Million Manufacturing Jobs from China
Tax Credits for Companies that Bring Back Jobs from China
Allow 100% Expensing Deductions for Essential Industries like Pharmaceuticals and Robotics who Bring Back their Manufacturing to the United States
No Federal Contracts for Companies who Outsource to China
Hold China Fully Accountable for Allowing the Virus to Spread around the World
HEALTHCARE
Cut Prescription Drug Prices
Put Patients and Doctors Back in Charge of our Healthcare System
Lower Healthcare Insurance Premiums
End Surprise Billing
Cover All Pre-Existing Conditions
Protect Social Security and Medicare
Protect Our Veterans and Provide World-Class Healthcare and Services
EDUCATION
Provide School Choice to Every Child in America
Teach American Exceptionalism
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Pass Congressional Term Limits
End Bureaucratic Government Bullying of U.S. Citizens and Small Businesses
Expose Washington’s Money Trail and Delegate Powers Back to People and States
Drain the Globalist Swamp by Taking on International Organizations That Hurt American Citizens
DEFEND OUR POLICE
Fully Fund and Hire More Police and Law Enforcement Officers
Increase Criminal Penalties for Assaults on Law Enforcement Officers
Prosecute Drive-By Shootings as Acts of Domestic Terrorism
Bring Violent Extremist Groups Like ANTIFA to Justice
End Cashless Bail and Keep Dangerous Criminals Locked Up until Trial
END ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND PROTECT AMERICAN WORKERS
Block Illegal Immigrants from Becoming Eligible for Taxpayer-Funded Welfare, Healthcare, and Free College Tuition
Mandatory Deportation for Non-Citizen Gang Members
Dismantle Human Trafficking Networks
End Sanctuary Cities to Restore our Neighborhoods and Protect our Families
Prohibit American Companies from Replacing United States Citizens with Lower-Cost Foreign Workers
Require New Immigrants to Be Able to Support Themselves Financially
INNOVATE FOR THE FUTURE
Launch Space Force, Establish Permanent Manned Presence on The Moon and Send the First Manned Mission to Mars
Build the World’s Greatest Infrastructure System
Win the Race to 5G and Establish a National High-Speed Wireless Internet Network
Continue to Lead the World in Access to the Cleanest Drinking Water and Cleanest Air
Partner with Other Nations to Clean Up our Planet’s Oceans
AMERICA FIRST FOREIGN POLICY
Stop Endless Wars and Bring Our Troops Home
Get Allies to Pay their Fair Share
Maintain and Expand America’s Unrivaled Military Strength
Wipe Out Global Terrorists Who Threaten to Harm Americans
Build a Great Cybersecurity Defense System and Missile Defense System
DEFEND AMERICAN VALUES
Continue nominating constitutionalist Supreme Court and lower court judges
Protect unborn life through every means available
Defend the freedoms of religious believers and organizations
Support the exercise of Second Amendment rights
Healthcare?
You do realize Trump has been promising the most affordable, “most beautiful healthcare you have ever seen” for his entire four year term, and promised it was coming “in a few weeks” on many occasions, yet we haven’t even see one draft, because there is no plan. Republicans have had ten years to come up with an alternative to the ACA, which they have tried to kill multiple times, and again, nada.
Drain the Swamp?
LOL. Trump has spent the last four years expanding the swamp and decking it out in his favorite gold leaf trim. The swamp is now bursting at the seams with the swampiest of swamp creatures as he’s rewarded personal favors with positions in government they are completely unqualified to handle. Louis DeJoy, found himself in charge of the USPS not long after donating $700,000 dollars to Trump’s convention fund, despite serious conflicts of interest, and US Justice Department has become Trump’s personal law enforcement agency, which has never happened before to this degree.
What possible reason do we have for believing anything in that list.
Oh, and you left 250,000 dead Americans out of his accomplishments, for some reason…
to be fair, you can’t lay all the victims of covid-19 on Trump. However, had there been competent leadership in the WH there would be significantly less deaths.
See my other reply upthread. Presidents have a unique responsibility attached to their office — that of keeping Americans. One which, not only has Trump failed miserably by every yardstick, but one he even denies having at all. He is uniquely unfit for that denial alone.
Parts of Trump’s agenda that I hate:
his incompetent leadership that has caused the problems of covid-19 to be far worse than they needed to be.
his use of the office of the president for his own personal/political gain
his incessant lying and otherwise misrepresenting the truth for his own personal/political gain
his ignorant and boorish behaviour that has made the US the laughing stock of the world
his risking the lives of his secret service detail to “parade” around a parking lot
this is just the tip of the iceberg.
I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
He’s done none of that. It’s all been a dumpster fire. You’re completely delusional and it shows.
Listen, the devil is in the details. While most of those are nice *goals*, he has absolutely no plans for bringing them into reality. Just like his “healthcare plan” that will cover everyone, be cheaper than the ACA, and won’t have a personal mandate, but which, surprise surprise, has never been released or even conceptualized. About the only major domestic policy he’s actually passed were the tax cuts, which arguably didn’t help anyone other than Wall St and exploded the national debt.
The fact is I am against basically every aspect of Trump. I hate his style, I hate his divisive rhetoric, I hate his authoritarian tendencies, I hate his trashing the free press and calling for arrests or civil suits, I hate his squabbling over the least important things on the entire planet like crowd sizes, I hate his pathological lying, I hate how he’s thrown traditional American allies under the bus, I hate how he wants to pull out of every international agreement, I hate how he doesn’t listen to experts, I hate how he’s so influenced by a cable TV network, I hate how he promotes conspiracy theories, I hate how there is so much corruption in his administration, I hate how he’s been credibly accused of rape by multiple women…
I could go on for pages and page. But, even despite all those things, if he was a highly competent executive, then maybe I could give him a pass on some of those things. But, as it turns out, He completely ignored the COVID threat for months, then he promote untested miracle cures, suggested injecting bleach or UV light into your blood, somehow made wearing a mask a political issue, and left the pandemic response largely up to the states with little help or direction from the federal government. I can’t think of how anyone could have done worse. At the same time as that, he’s trying to kill healthcare in this country with absolutely no plan to replace it despite lies to the contrary.
McSally’s desire to eliminate the ACA is enough for me to hope she gets a nasty case of COVID-19 from this meeting, and suffers lasting damage that will count as a pre-existing condition, forever. Ditto for Driscoll, who also ought to lose his church’s tax exemption for this stunt, but won’t.
I don’t really care if McSally swears or not. I do care that a religious non-profit is hosting a politician up for re-election in < 3 weeks.
She’s hopefully going to lose. She’s polling badly against Mark Kelly but of course, only votes matter. This is the thing–she ran in 2018 against Kyrsten Sinema and lost. She got appointed to the seat after Jon Kyl filled the seat temporarily after McCain died. People are quite ticked that she was forced on us, not our choice.
I forgot about that. Hopefully there is a landslide against her. I’d really like to see Graham lose as well That will send a real message to the republicans about their behaviour under Trump.
Mark Driscoll? Oh that !@#$%^&*!! guy. Below is a clip of what might be his mom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc7PQWU6eN8&ab_channel=busdunc
Ah, the still unreformed Mark Driscoll.
What really amazes me about Driscoll and his pond-dwelling ilk is that so many people seem keen to jump in the pond with him. It’s his supporters and enablers that make it possible for him to keep going.
There is a distressingly large portion of the population who have been trained/trained themselves into seeing profane faux-macho men as natural leaders. The fact that so many of these people are self-professed Christians (who claim to follow a Lord who humbled Himself unto death for love of others) is the real tragedy.
seeing profane faux-macho men as natural leaders
There’s a new book out called Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Kobes DuMez that is very relevant to that topic, talking about how idolizing a certain vision of (white) masculinity has infected the church and American society.
“If you like Mark Driscoll, you’ll LOVE Donald Trump.”
— Wondering Eagle, on why Christians are the most fanatical of Trump fanatics.
Ah yes, I remember the Trump ‘toilet rhetoric’ about certain countries … some of those countries have very low numbers of deaths from Covid-19, as it happens …