According to the UG Pulse:
The Anti Homosexuality bill 2009 and the Marriage and Divorce bill are due for debate when parliament resumes business next week.
The two controversial bills that raised public debate during the 8th Parliament are up for consideration when the Business committee of the House sits next week.
In a letter to MPs on the committee from the office of the Clerk to Parliament, the meeting slated for Monday next week is expected to consider the legislative programme for the 3rd meeting of the 1st session of the 9th Parliament.
The Anti-Homosexuality bill 2009, moved by Ndorwa West MP, David Bahati is one of the bills to be considered on the agenda, despite calls from international human rights activists, donors and gays, out rightly rejected the bill.
Also to be considered is the Marriage and Divorce Bill 2009, which is being pushed for by women rights activists to reform and consolidate laws relating to marriage, separation and divorce.
However religious leaders have rejected the bill, noting that the clause that recognizes cohabitation as a form of marriage is in breach of their religious beliefs.
Other bills for consideration are the Narcotics and Psychotropic Substances Control bill, the HIV/AIDS Prevention and Control Bill, Anti-Counterfeiting Goods bill, as well as the Companies bill.
If I understand this article correctly, what will happen Monday is that the Business Committee will meet to determine when the bills carried over from the 8th Parliament will be debated. One of those bills carried over is the Anti-Homosexuality Bill.
This meeting should be watched closely. The Speaker of the House could delay the bill or she could encourage the members to consider it promptly. I wrote about this process back in October, 2011. At that time, Parliament spokeswoman Helen Kawesa laid out the procedure:
Yesterday, I reported that the Parliament of Ugandavoted to return unfinished bills from the Eighth Session to business in the current session. One of those bills specifically referenced was the Anti-Homosexuality Bill.
This morning I spoke with Parliament Spokeswoman, Helen Kawesa, who told me that no date had been set for debate on the anti-gay measure. “The Business Committee will meet to decide what bills are considered. Then they will be listed on the daily Order Paper,” Kawesa explained. The Business Committee is chaired by Speaker of the House Rebecca Kadaga and made up of all other committee chairs. Currently, no date has been set for this committee to consider a schedule for the bills returned from the Eighth Parliament.
I also spoke briefly to Stephen Tashobya, chair of the Legal and Parliamentary Affairs committee. His committee prepared a report on the Anti-Homosexuality Bill in May and recommended passage with some minor changes. He had no comment on the status of the anti-gay bill since he has been traveling.
According to Kawesa, the Business committee could recommend that the anti-gay bill go back to committee or it could recommend that the former committee report become the basis for debate in the Parliament. Apparently, the return of the bill to the floor is not automatic. The Speaker has some ability to delay it or expedite it. The decision of the Business committee may signal how quickly the bill will move.
The committee report from Tashobya’s committee left the severe aspects of the bill intact, including the death penalty and life in prison (see an analysis here).
It seems the Parliament is determined to take up the bill over the objections of the Executive branch.
Now that Anglica Archbishop Henry Luke Orombi is retiring (before his time but not a moment too soon) the feardriven ¨haters¨ are struggling to keep the LGBT blood flowing in Uganda…truly there has never recently been, maybe in decades, such fools on the prowl for innocents to meet, beat and marginalize both in and outside of Church….may Henry Luke run far away from the mess he has created, debated and TEC confiscated (rejected by State Supreme Courts in the U.S.A.) and leave LGBT Ugandans/others ALONE…the man, once aspiring to greatness in his own hindsight, is a failure, an embarrassment a mess and ought work out his retirement years as apprentice to Bishop Christopher Ssenyonjo, who, although excommunicated by greedy ++Luke, is twice the human being as he ministers to our brothers and sisters in Uganda who have become lost (but their souls have not been), displaced and alone. Lord have mercy on MP Bahati and his followers who are no more than goons.
I seem to remember that the Nigerian Senate President asked Davey-Boy Cameron of UK and his colleagues in the International Mafia of Western Nations to cut their aid package just before he brusquely called a parliamentary vote on the gay marriage bill that passed unanimously. Why not urge Baby-faced Cameron to use Nigeria as an example? I keep hearing good news about our colleagues in the Ghanaian Parliament working on something to keep sexual deviancy in its place in the dust bin. So how many African scapegoat parliaments do you imperialist chaps in the Western world need? One, Two, Three, Four, Five….Ten?
I can see you are clearly upset, but the parliament will act in the interests of the Ugandan people with regards to the issue of gayism. Stop trying to mix apples and biscuits together. The Tullow Oil matter is a completely separate matter that has to be addressed by Parliament. The Bahati Bill is something different and will be equally addressed when MPs are ready.
Once upon a time, ‘Maazi NCO MP’ said this “Contrary to Western media propaganda, Gays who keep their heads down and do their stuff privately will be left alone …”
Now it seems that he’s ‘baying for blood’.
It would be a real pity if other countries felt compelled to ‘make an example’ of Uganda in order to deter other countries from the kind of ‘transparently insane, inhuman, degrading and abhorrent’ behaviour that Bahati proposes.
(I’m not sure that Ugandans generally want a bahatistic killing spree at all; I suspect that they are much more concerned about violent crime, corruption and inflation.)
Uganda’s power-drunk Pharisees ..and their pathetic excuses for churches conveniently ignore their own ongoing scandal: rampant,entrenched adultery–much of in secret,much defended as legal polygamybut adultery nevertheless–like their American teachers, they completely miss the transition in the New Covenant from the Law of Moses,with the principle of conversion replacing coercion.
@ anteros
I must admit that the signing of the ‘final’ deal with Tullow did rather take me by surprise. Perhaps it could be seen as a sign of the determination by the Executive to get on with ‘practical matters’ rather than mess about with irrelevant (and bloodthirsty and totalitarian) nonsense like the Bahati Bill.
If passed, the Bahati Bill would do no good (for anyone); rather it will only create new problems.
upset? i’m sad and ashamed that such backwardness persists in uganda, especially among educated people who were trusted by us voters to make a positive difference in our lives. we sent them into office with a simple and basic checklist which has been totally disregarded because they couldn’t resist flaunting their fundamentalist backwardness in search of international fame. looking at the poverty in uganda, is this really the best they can offer us? putting our priorities aside and banishing our country to the fringes? …at least if were for something meaningful and worthwhile, but for this nonsense? i hope they pass the bill. maybe this time we will learn our lesson. clearly we haven’t learned anything from the historical consequences of discrimination towards minorities (especially ugandans of asian descent)… maybe this time we will learn. pass the bill.
upset? i’m sad and ashamed that such backwardness persists in uganda, especially among educated people who were trusted by us voters to make a positive difference in our lives. we sent them into office with a simple and basic checklist which has been totally disregarded because they couldn’t resist flaunting their fundamentalist backwardness in search of international fame. looking at the poverty in uganda, is this really the best they can offer us? putting our priorities aside and banishing our country to the fringes? …at least if were for something meaningful and worthwhile, but for this nonsense? i hope they pass the bill. maybe this time we will learn our lesson. clearly we haven’t learned anything from the historical consequences of discrimination towards minorities (especially ugandans of asian descent)… maybe this time we will learn. pass the bill.
Our resident Uganda Opposition MP might enjoy this commentary on the Nigerian situation: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/12/01/world/africa/nigeria-anti-gay-bill/index.html
(Apart from the full-frontal attack on freedom of expression in Clause 10, it could be argued that the Nigerian Bill is actually meaningless fluff, given that it criminalizes things that are already effectively criminalized … even if it’s a case of ‘the mob’, rather any organized political process, that is doing the ‘effective criminalization’.)
The Bahati Bill is much more vicious than even the Nigerian Bill (which has yet to complete its legislative passage, I gather). And don’t forget that it is not only Britain that objects to the bahatistas’ mindless violence; many many other countries feel the same way (the British statement last summer was issued after close consultation with EU, and other, allies).
I think anteros’ point is that the Bahati Bill might be seen by some irresponsible MPs as a way of distracting attention from their own failure. He is also calling what some of us are beginning to suspect might be a bahatistic bluff.
Bluff or not, the Bill has already done damage to Uganda, and, if passed, will result in more damage … effectively self-inflicted. (If one sticks one’s fingers in the fire, one gets burnt.)
I seem to remember that the Nigerian Senate President asked Davey-Boy Cameron of UK and his colleagues in the International Mafia of Western Nations to cut their aid package just before he brusquely called a parliamentary vote on the gay marriage bill that passed unanimously. Why not urge Baby-faced Cameron to use Nigeria as an example? I keep hearing good news about our colleagues in the Ghanaian Parliament working on something to keep sexual deviancy in its place in the dust bin. So how many African scapegoat parliaments do you imperialist chaps in the Western world need? One, Two, Three, Four, Five….Ten?
I can see you are clearly upset, but the parliament will act in the interests of the Ugandan people with regards to the issue of gayism. Stop trying to mix apples and biscuits together. The Tullow Oil matter is a completely separate matter that has to be addressed by Parliament. The Bahati Bill is something different and will be equally addressed when MPs are ready.
Our resident Uganda Opposition MP might enjoy this commentary on the Nigerian situation: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/12/01/world/africa/nigeria-anti-gay-bill/index.html
(Apart from the full-frontal attack on freedom of expression in Clause 10, it could be argued that the Nigerian Bill is actually meaningless fluff, given that it criminalizes things that are already effectively criminalized … even if it’s a case of ‘the mob’, rather any organized political process, that is doing the ‘effective criminalization’.)
The Bahati Bill is much more vicious than even the Nigerian Bill (which has yet to complete its legislative passage, I gather). And don’t forget that it is not only Britain that objects to the bahatistas’ mindless violence; many many other countries feel the same way (the British statement last summer was issued after close consultation with EU, and other, allies).
I think anteros’ point is that the Bahati Bill might be seen by some irresponsible MPs as a way of distracting attention from their own failure. He is also calling what some of us are beginning to suspect might be a bahatistic bluff.
Bluff or not, the Bill has already done damage to Uganda, and, if passed, will result in more damage … effectively self-inflicted. (If one sticks one’s fingers in the fire, one gets burnt.)
@ anteros
I must admit that the signing of the ‘final’ deal with Tullow did rather take me by surprise. Perhaps it could be seen as a sign of the determination by the Executive to get on with ‘practical matters’ rather than mess about with irrelevant (and bloodthirsty and totalitarian) nonsense like the Bahati Bill.
If passed, the Bahati Bill would do no good (for anyone); rather it will only create new problems.
It is only UG Pulse that is reporting the possible impending ‘come-back’ of the Bill. Maybe others are just keeping quiet …
Here’s an article that gives an insight into the true face of Bahati and his allies: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iwLDZjY9EaexBDmpbruKI8dN1vzw?docId=CNG.5523ea422703bcadbc8b7dc14961f4a7.321
It is only UG Pulse that is reporting the possible impending ‘come-back’ of the Bill. Maybe others are just keeping quiet …
Here’s an article that gives an insight into the true face of Bahati and his allies: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iwLDZjY9EaexBDmpbruKI8dN1vzw?docId=CNG.5523ea422703bcadbc8b7dc14961f4a7.321
how could i forget the recently rushed signing of that oil deal, and all the other scandals and crises dominating current affairs in uganda, all of which clearly aren’t as important and urgent as debating a law that makes it mandatory to snoop around ugandans’ bedrooms to make sure all ugandans are having “traditional and holy”* intimate relationships (* lots of fine print – …the terms “traditional” and “holy” are opportunistically defined, used selectively and obviously do not apply to heterosexuals) and kill all those who aren’t having “traditional and holy”* intimate relationships.
…looking at all the national dirt, scandals and crises unfolding, of course we’re going to be distracted and re-entertained by the stupid bill and its accompanying nonsensical hysteria, “EH! the homosexuals are coming for our children!! the homosexuals are coming for our children!! we have to kill them before they come!!”
pass it.
(I understand the argument that the EU, the US, Norway, Canada, Australia, etc should not try to ‘force’ African countries to legislate for things like gay marriage and/or gay adoption. However, the Bahati Bill constitutes a murderous assault on fundamental human rights, and mainstream public opinion in the places mentioned above would expect – and probably demand – that their governments to take a ‘[non-violent] tough line’ on such violent repression.
I understand also that Ugandan MPs have the freedom to enact reprehensible laws. What people like ‘Maazi NCO MP’ should understand is that others have the freedom to respond to such outrages as they see fit.)
so, why did it take three years just to get to the point where a decision can be made… just to debate the bill? quit goofing around and pass the damn bill. pass the stupid bill and get over yourselves. pass it over breakfast on monday morning. make your point and have fun doing so… we’ll see who gets to laugh last.
Once upon a time, ‘Maazi NCO MP’ said this “Contrary to Western media propaganda, Gays who keep their heads down and do their stuff privately will be left alone …”
Now it seems that he’s ‘baying for blood’.
It would be a real pity if other countries felt compelled to ‘make an example’ of Uganda in order to deter other countries from the kind of ‘transparently insane, inhuman, degrading and abhorrent’ behaviour that Bahati proposes.
(I’m not sure that Ugandans generally want a bahatistic killing spree at all; I suspect that they are much more concerned about violent crime, corruption and inflation.)
I have already said that parliament will do its work. No foreigner will exercise right of veto over our parliament. The Executive can butter up the Americans if they have to. But parliament must act on its own accord.
This is just another form of gay propaganda. Do you think that Luke Orombi controls the parliament of the Ugandan State? What rivers of blood are you talking about?? Do you people just wake up in the morning and start making things up?
So gayism is now a religion??
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All this vitrol because Ugandan MPs wish to codify the objection of their people to an anti-social behaviour that is transparently insane, inhuman, degrading and abhorrent.
Okay. got to run now…
how could i forget the recently rushed signing of that oil deal, and all the other scandals and crises dominating current affairs in uganda, all of which clearly aren’t as important and urgent as debating a law that makes it mandatory to snoop around ugandans’ bedrooms to make sure all ugandans are having “traditional and holy”* intimate relationships (* lots of fine print – …the terms “traditional” and “holy” are opportunistically defined, used selectively and obviously do not apply to heterosexuals) and kill all those who aren’t having “traditional and holy”* intimate relationships.
…looking at all the national dirt, scandals and crises unfolding, of course we’re going to be distracted and re-entertained by the stupid bill and its accompanying nonsensical hysteria, “EH! the homosexuals are coming for our children!! the homosexuals are coming for our children!! we have to kill them before they come!!”
pass it.
(I understand the argument that the EU, the US, Norway, Canada, Australia, etc should not try to ‘force’ African countries to legislate for things like gay marriage and/or gay adoption. However, the Bahati Bill constitutes a murderous assault on fundamental human rights, and mainstream public opinion in the places mentioned above would expect – and probably demand – that their governments to take a ‘[non-violent] tough line’ on such violent repression.
I understand also that Ugandan MPs have the freedom to enact reprehensible laws. What people like ‘Maazi NCO MP’ should understand is that others have the freedom to respond to such outrages as they see fit.)
so, why did it take three years just to get to the point where a decision can be made… just to debate the bill? quit goofing around and pass the damn bill. pass the stupid bill and get over yourselves. pass it over breakfast on monday morning. make your point and have fun doing so… we’ll see who gets to laugh last.
Now that Anglica Archbishop Henry Luke Orombi is retiring (before his time but not a moment too soon) the feardriven ¨haters¨ are struggling to keep the LGBT blood flowing in Uganda…truly there has never recently been, maybe in decades, such fools on the prowl for innocents to meet, beat and marginalize both in and outside of Church….may Henry Luke run far away from the mess he has created, debated and TEC confiscated (rejected by State Supreme Courts in the U.S.A.) and leave LGBT Ugandans/others ALONE…the man, once aspiring to greatness in his own hindsight, is a failure, an embarrassment a mess and ought work out his retirement years as apprentice to Bishop Christopher Ssenyonjo, who, although excommunicated by greedy ++Luke, is twice the human being as he ministers to our brothers and sisters in Uganda who have become lost (but their souls have not been), displaced and alone. Lord have mercy on MP Bahati and his followers who are no more than goons.
I have already said that parliament will do its work. No foreigner will exercise right of veto over our parliament. The Executive can butter up the Americans if they have to. But parliament must act on its own accord.
This is just another form of gay propaganda. Do you think that Luke Orombi controls the parliament of the Ugandan State? What rivers of blood are you talking about?? Do you people just wake up in the morning and start making things up?
So gayism is now a religion??
.
.
All this vitrol because Ugandan MPs wish to codify the objection of their people to an anti-social behaviour that is transparently insane, inhuman, degrading and abhorrent.
Okay. got to run now…
Uganda’s power-drunk Pharisees ..and their pathetic excuses for churches conveniently ignore their own ongoing scandal: rampant,entrenched adultery–much of in secret,much defended as legal polygamybut adultery nevertheless–like their American teachers, they completely miss the transition in the New Covenant from the Law of Moses,with the principle of conversion replacing coercion.