12 thoughts on “Media on David Barton’s The Jefferson Lies”

  1. So, who’s lying here? You both can’t be telling the truth. All I want is the truth, and I’m willing to search for it myself. I do believe that the Declaration of Independence was written with God in mind. So, if the argument is “How religious Jefferson was?”, these details are minutia compared to the majority belief at the time, and aren’t as important to me except that I need to know whom I can believe and trust. In an age where man is so easily tempted to lie for fame, monetary gain, pride,… it’s hard to know who you can trust. Can you both be right?

    1. Russ – Jefferson believed in a God but not the God of the Bible. As far as who to trust, all I can do is point you to our book. We wrote it to get these things in one place to make it easy to look at the claims and then the evidence. For Christian scholars the details are important and truth is worth contending for.

  2. So, who’s lying here? You both can’t be telling the truth. All I want is the truth, and I’m willing to search for it myself. I do believe that the Declaration of Independence was written with God in mind. So, if the argument is “How religious Jefferson was?”, these details are minutia compared to the majority belief at the time, and aren’t as important to me except that I need to know whom I can believe and trust. In an age where man is so easily tempted to lie for fame, monetary gain, pride,… it’s hard to know who you can trust. Can you both be right?

    1. Russ – Jefferson believed in a God but not the God of the Bible. As far as who to trust, all I can do is point you to our book. We wrote it to get these things in one place to make it easy to look at the claims and then the evidence. For Christian scholars the details are important and truth is worth contending for.

  3. Dr. Throckmorton-

    Scott Lively has just written an exquisitely deranged attack piece – um I mean Christian love epistle – about you.

    Among other things, he pegs you as an agent of homosexuals planted “inside the Christian camp.” You are collaborator and a conspirator. He finds something ominous in the fact that someone retweeted your tweets. And he bemoans that one can now hear the “gleeful cackles as [the gays] pat Warren Throckmorton on the back.” The piece has everything – except any actual criticism of the merits of your refutation of Barton.

    Please read and wear as a badge of honor:

    http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/newsarchives.php?id=8239619

  4. Classic Barton,

    “Barton said he met with a different group of scholars recently and they approved of his work.

    “I can’t tell you how many Ph.D.’s were in the room,” he said.

    But he would not give any names, saying the scholars hadn’t given their permission for him [to] do so.”

    I imagine you could count them on one amputated hand.

  5. Dr. Throckmorton-

    Scott Lively has just written an exquisitely deranged attack piece – um I mean Christian love epistle – about you.

    Among other things, he pegs you as an agent of homosexuals planted “inside the Christian camp.” You are collaborator and a conspirator. He finds something ominous in the fact that someone retweeted your tweets. And he bemoans that one can now hear the “gleeful cackles as [the gays] pat Warren Throckmorton on the back.” The piece has everything – except any actual criticism of the merits of your refutation of Barton.

    Please read and wear as a badge of honor:

    http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/newsarchives.php?id=8239619

  6. Warren, I wish there was a way that you could have signed your ebook for me.

    How wonderful that your ‘labor of love’ is finally getting the attention, and recognition it deserves. And, what’s doubly wonderful is that you’re a Professor at an Evangelical College.

    I wonder if Glen Beck will have you on his show.

  7. Classic Barton,

    “Barton said he met with a different group of scholars recently and they approved of his work.

    “I can’t tell you how many Ph.D.’s were in the room,” he said.

    But he would not give any names, saying the scholars hadn’t given their permission for him [to] do so.”

    I imagine you could count them on one amputated hand.

  8. Thanks for these links. There are several other very good articles besides these on your list. You may have missed them with so many articles about this story coming out so quickly. They’re from a website called God Discussion. One of them came up as the top news article the other day when I was searching for David Barton on Google, and another one was just posted this morning. Here are the links for you to add to your list:

    http://www.goddiscussion.com/100108/clanking-cymbals-and-blathering-nonsense-challenge-for-evidence-of-false-claims-in-bartons-controversial-the-jefferson-lies-riles-critics-and-researchers/

    http://www.goddiscussion.com/100051/one-of-the-foremost-barton-debunkers-accepts-challenge-to-prove-the-fallacies-in-the-jefferson-lies/

  9. Warren, I wish there was a way that you could have signed your ebook for me.

    How wonderful that your ‘labor of love’ is finally getting the attention, and recognition it deserves. And, what’s doubly wonderful is that you’re a Professor at an Evangelical College.

    I wonder if Glen Beck will have you on his show.

  10. Thanks for these links. There are several other very good articles besides these on your list. You may have missed them with so many articles about this story coming out so quickly. They’re from a website called God Discussion. One of them came up as the top news article the other day when I was searching for David Barton on Google, and another one was just posted this morning. Here are the links for you to add to your list:

    http://www.goddiscussion.com/100108/clanking-cymbals-and-blathering-nonsense-challenge-for-evidence-of-false-claims-in-bartons-controversial-the-jefferson-lies-riles-critics-and-researchers/

    http://www.goddiscussion.com/100051/one-of-the-foremost-barton-debunkers-accepts-challenge-to-prove-the-fallacies-in-the-jefferson-lies/

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