Family Feud: Karl Rove on Christine O’Donnell

The Architect is redrawing the plans for a GOP takeover of the Senate given Christine O’Donnell’s primary victory in DE Tuesday night. He doesn’t think she can win and pretty much has the opposition research details covered. Roll the tape:

O’Donnell will not garner many glb votes either as she has a history on the subject. Here the Daily Beast interviews ex-ex-gay Wade Richards who used to work with her in an ex-gay ministry as well as with Peter LaBarbera at AFTAH the First.

14 thoughts on “Family Feud: Karl Rove on Christine O’Donnell”

  1. My two favorite Christine O’Donnell quotes are:

    Physics put people in spiritual harm, the same way pimps put people in physical harm.”

    And:

    Creationism, in essence, is believing that the world began as the Bible in Genesis says, that god created the earth in six twenty-four hour periods. And there is just as much evidence, if not more, supporting that.

    Anyone who should have voted or will vote for her deserves what they might get. America has always been a country grounded in compromise. We have to get back there, back to the solid center.

  2. Did you catch the part in the Daily Beast article about AFTAH’s little room of horrors?

    Gotta love research!

  3. She’s not crazy. She just tells people what they want to hear. I’m sure that if she gets into office, she will show just the same imaginative and creative financial expertise that she’s shown in her personal life.

    Maybe not crazy in the thoughts of laymen, but possibly psychopathic. I wonder if there is such a personality type as a religious psychopath? One for whom telling falsehoods or any amount of lies in furtherance of a religious concept entails no problem of conscience whatsoever. I see that the term has been used to describe Islamic terrorism; but surely there should be milder forms. For instance, AA Dole – The Psychology of Terrorism, 2002 but the concept has been used for a more benign form: WC MIDDLETON – Psychological Review, 1931, The psychopathology of George Fox, the founder of Quakerism.

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    Such would possibly fly in the face of the APA’s edicts that deeply held religious views cannot be considered mental illnesses such as delusions. However, there becomes a point when factual realities start to become so widely distorted by persons that perhaps their mental acuity or at least their motives (and reasoning behind such motives) should be questioned.

  4. “Now we’re using this to start cloning humans. … They are – they are doing that here in the United States. American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains.’

    O’Reilly Factor, 10/16/07

    She’s not crazy. She just tells people what they want to hear. I’m sure that if she gets into office, she will show just the same imaginative and creative financial expertise that she’s shown in her personal life.

    “I dabbled into witchcraft – I never joined a coven. … I hung around people who were doing these things. I’m not making this stuff up. One of my first dates with a witch was on a satanic altar, and I didn’t know it. I mean, there’s little blood there and stuff like that. … We went to a movie and then had a midnight picnic on a satanic altar.

    ” Politically Incorrect, 10/29/99

    But now of course she’s saved by Christ. And she’s on a mission from God.

    I think it shows just how badly both parties have performed in Congress that such a person is a serious contender. The Obama administration is up there with Harding’s for corruption, and many (R)s are so corrupt themselves they don’t capitalise on it.

    Actually, she reminds me rather a lot of a certain Ugandan politician…

    “During the primary, I heard the audible voice of God. He said, ‘Credibility.’ It wasn’t a thought in my head. I thought it meant I was going to win. But after the primary, I got credibility.”

    [Wilmington News-Journal, 11/12/06]

    And the Rubes sucked it up.

  5. Such would possibly fly in the face of the APA’s edicts that deeply held religious views cannot be considered mental illnesses such as delusions. However, there becomes a point when factual realities start to become so widely distorted by persons that perhaps their mental acuity or at least their motives (and reasoning behind such motives) should be questioned.

    Well, yes.

    But only in those cases. We must be careful here, drawing a distinction between “mentally ill” and “just plain bad”. Evil, if you like.

    I regard many of those on the Right-wing of Christianity as incorrect, inconsistent with their own Holy Writings, but erroneous rather than corrupt. Many more, less far to the Right, I differ from, but they’re reasonable people. I see no malice in them, no matter how awful the effects of their actions are.

    But those who, for personal gain in wealth and power, make persecution a business – nothing personal – and knowingly engage in hypocrisy to get the suckers’ cash rolling in, and to have fun hurting others and demonstrating their power over them – they’re just plain mean. A mental illness? Sociopathy? I don’t know. What made them that way? Is it – like transsexuality 🙂 – just something that is good for the whole to have a smattering of, no matter the terrible effects are on those concerned? I don’t know. I do know that there’s no reasoning with them – unless on the basis of their own self-interest. I think that it’s only when even that fails, that they’d rather be a big fish in a small pond than a larger, but relatively smaller fish in a much bigger pond – “better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven” – that you cross the boundary into Evil.

    From the viewpoint of damage limitation, I’m not sure it matters. Much as I’d like to see them spiritually healed, Life’s too short, and my priority has to be their victims first. Theologically incorrect, as their victims can look forward to a reward later for suffering now, whereas their disorder will be Eternal, but I don’t believe in that stuff.

  6. Such would possibly fly in the face of the APA’s edicts that deeply held religious views cannot be considered mental illnesses such as delusions. However, there becomes a point when factual realities start to become so widely distorted by persons that perhaps their mental acuity or at least their motives (and reasoning behind such motives) should be questioned.

    Well, yes.

    But only in those cases. We must be careful here, drawing a distinction between “mentally ill” and “just plain bad”. Evil, if you like.

    I regard many of those on the Right-wing of Christianity as incorrect, inconsistent with their own Holy Writings, but erroneous rather than corrupt. Many more, less far to the Right, I differ from, but they’re reasonable people. I see no malice in them, no matter how awful the effects of their actions are.

    But those who, for personal gain in wealth and power, make persecution a business – nothing personal – and knowingly engage in hypocrisy to get the suckers’ cash rolling in, and to have fun hurting others and demonstrating their power over them – they’re just plain mean. A mental illness? Sociopathy? I don’t know. What made them that way? Is it – like transsexuality 🙂 – just something that is good for the whole to have a smattering of, no matter the terrible effects are on those concerned? I don’t know. I do know that there’s no reasoning with them – unless on the basis of their own self-interest. I think that it’s only when even that fails, that they’d rather be a big fish in a small pond than a larger, but relatively smaller fish in a much bigger pond – “better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven” – that you cross the boundary into Evil.

    From the viewpoint of damage limitation, I’m not sure it matters. Much as I’d like to see them spiritually healed, Life’s too short, and my priority has to be their victims first. Theologically incorrect, as their victims can look forward to a reward later for suffering now, whereas their disorder will be Eternal, but I don’t believe in that stuff.

  7. Apparently Rush Limbaugh is the head of the GOP. Limbaugh didn’t like Rove going off message, no matter how unstable a candidate O’Donnell is. Check out this post that’s proof even Rove bows down to the formerly (?) drug-addicted radio host: “Rove Backs Off O’Donnell Criticism After Limbaugh Declares He’s ‘In Charge’ Of Saying Who’s Electable.” Limbaugh said, in part:

    “This is about conservatives taking back the Republican Party. … Who the hell are they, anyway, to anoint or disanoint somebody as electable or not electable?” Rush Limbaugh asked Wednesday. “I’m in charge of that! … That’s always been my purview and nothing’s changed.” […]

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    “Look at the petulant attitude. ‘Screw you – Christine O’Donnell wins, she’s on her own. You’re on your own,’” Limbaugh said. […]

    .

    “We’re going to throw in the towel here?” Limbaugh rhetorically asked his close ally, who spent a day filling in on his program this summer. “Why not fight for it?”

  8. She’s not crazy. She just tells people what they want to hear. I’m sure that if she gets into office, she will show just the same imaginative and creative financial expertise that she’s shown in her personal life.

    Maybe not crazy in the thoughts of laymen, but possibly psychopathic. I wonder if there is such a personality type as a religious psychopath? One for whom telling falsehoods or any amount of lies in furtherance of a religious concept entails no problem of conscience whatsoever. I see that the term has been used to describe Islamic terrorism; but surely there should be milder forms. For instance, AA Dole – The Psychology of Terrorism, 2002 but the concept has been used for a more benign form: WC MIDDLETON – Psychological Review, 1931, The psychopathology of George Fox, the founder of Quakerism.

    .

    Such would possibly fly in the face of the APA’s edicts that deeply held religious views cannot be considered mental illnesses such as delusions. However, there becomes a point when factual realities start to become so widely distorted by persons that perhaps their mental acuity or at least their motives (and reasoning behind such motives) should be questioned.

  9. Apparently Rush Limbaugh is the head of the GOP. Limbaugh didn’t like Rove going off message, no matter how unstable a candidate O’Donnell is. Check out this post that’s proof even Rove bows down to the formerly (?) drug-addicted radio host: “Rove Backs Off O’Donnell Criticism After Limbaugh Declares He’s ‘In Charge’ Of Saying Who’s Electable.” Limbaugh said, in part:

    “This is about conservatives taking back the Republican Party. … Who the hell are they, anyway, to anoint or disanoint somebody as electable or not electable?” Rush Limbaugh asked Wednesday. “I’m in charge of that! … That’s always been my purview and nothing’s changed.” […]

    .

    “Look at the petulant attitude. ‘Screw you – Christine O’Donnell wins, she’s on her own. You’re on your own,'” Limbaugh said. […]

    .

    “We’re going to throw in the towel here?” Limbaugh rhetorically asked his close ally, who spent a day filling in on his program this summer. “Why not fight for it?”

  10. “Now we’re using this to start cloning humans. … They are – they are doing that here in the United States. American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains.’

    O’Reilly Factor, 10/16/07

    She’s not crazy. She just tells people what they want to hear. I’m sure that if she gets into office, she will show just the same imaginative and creative financial expertise that she’s shown in her personal life.

    “I dabbled into witchcraft – I never joined a coven. … I hung around people who were doing these things. I’m not making this stuff up. One of my first dates with a witch was on a satanic altar, and I didn’t know it. I mean, there’s little blood there and stuff like that. … We went to a movie and then had a midnight picnic on a satanic altar.

    ” Politically Incorrect, 10/29/99

    But now of course she’s saved by Christ. And she’s on a mission from God.

    I think it shows just how badly both parties have performed in Congress that such a person is a serious contender. The Obama administration is up there with Harding’s for corruption, and many (R)s are so corrupt themselves they don’t capitalise on it.

    Actually, she reminds me rather a lot of a certain Ugandan politician…

    “During the primary, I heard the audible voice of God. He said, ‘Credibility.’ It wasn’t a thought in my head. I thought it meant I was going to win. But after the primary, I got credibility.”

    [Wilmington News-Journal, 11/12/06]

    And the Rubes sucked it up.

  11. My two favorite Christine O’Donnell quotes are:

    Physics put people in spiritual harm, the same way pimps put people in physical harm.”

    And:

    Creationism, in essence, is believing that the world began as the Bible in Genesis says, that god created the earth in six twenty-four hour periods. And there is just as much evidence, if not more, supporting that.

    Anyone who should have voted or will vote for her deserves what they might get. America has always been a country grounded in compromise. We have to get back there, back to the solid center.

  12. Did you catch the part in the Daily Beast article about AFTAH’s little room of horrors?

    Gotta love research!

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