As quoted in todays’s Monitor, Ugandan MP David Bahati says not to mix religion and politics but then does so by saying this:
Qn: Of late you have been silent about the Anti -Homosexuality Bill; did the incidents in the US where you were barred from attending a conference scare you?
The Bill is within the responsible committee of Parliament. We have been assured that it will be considered before May; before the expiry of this Parliament. The events in the USA surely exposed the kind of intorelence that is inconsistent with the book values of American People and strengthened me and the Ugandan people in our defence of the children and the family. This Bill provides a God given opportunity for Uganda to provide leadership on this issue and Iam more than confident that it will pass.
‘Maazi’s’ assurances can now be dismissed ‘with a wave of the hand’.
For now, I will restrict my reply to the last comment I made “>on this thread
Just heard (unconfirmed) reports that David Kato (one of the ‘Rolling Stone’ plaintiffs) has been murdered.
He house was broken into three days ago.
Even before the upstart tabloid came into existence, the flamboyant Mr. Kato was known throughout Uganda as public face of gayism. So the idea that it was the tabloid that got him killed by printing his picture may not actually be correct since he was already well known. The most important thing is that the murder is under police investigation and until it is concluded or at least have gone mid-way, no fanciful conclusions can be reached.
If this murder were not related to Kato’s sexuality, it would be a HUGE coincidence, I think. He had been receiving (greatly increased levels of) threats for a while (ever since the ‘Rolling Stone’ ‘Hang Them’ article).
Even before the upstart tabloid came into existence, the flamboyant Mr. Kato was known throughout Uganda as public face of gayism. So the idea that it was the tabloid that got him killed by printing his picture may not actually be correct since he was already well known. The most important thing is that the murder is under police investigation and until it is concluded or at least have gone mid-way, no fanciful conclusions can be reached.
The Police are still investigating the circumstances that led to the gruesome murder of Mr. David Kato. It may not be prudent to jump into conclusions. The perpetrator(s) of the homicide will eventually face justice.
If this murder were not related to Kato’s sexuality, it would be a HUGE coincidence, I think. He had been receiving (greatly increased levels of) threats for a while (ever since the ‘Rolling Stone’ ‘Hang Them’ article).
Bahitler
http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/08/10728/
clearly decriminalization wouldnt be enough for uganda. lgbti ugandans need anti-discrimination laws to protect them from anti-gay elements who have been stoked by the bahatites into wanton murder in broad daylight.
The Police are still investigating the circumstances that led to the gruesome murder of Mr. David Kato. It may not be prudent to jump into conclusions. The perpetrator(s) of the homicide will eventually face justice.
Bahitler
http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/08/10728/
‘Maazi’s’ assurances can now be dismissed ‘with a wave of the hand’.
clearly decriminalization wouldnt be enough for uganda. lgbti ugandans need anti-discrimination laws to protect them from anti-gay elements who have been stoked by the bahatites into wanton murder in broad daylight.
Let’s us not forget that Bahati approved of the ‘Rolling Stone’:
/2010/11/16/bahatiinterview/
Just heard (unconfirmed) reports that David Kato (one of the ‘Rolling Stone’ plaintiffs) has been murdered.
He house was broken into three days ago.
Let’s us not forget that Bahati approved of the ‘Rolling Stone’:
/2010/11/16/bahatiinterview/
Latest Bahati antics:
http://lezgetreal.com/2011/01/uganda-lesbian-files-urgent-new-asylum-claim-in-uk-in-face-of-friday-deportation/
Latest Bahati antics:
http://lezgetreal.com/2011/01/uganda-lesbian-files-urgent-new-asylum-claim-in-uk-in-face-of-friday-deportation/
‘Maazi’
Thank you – I’ve seen your response.
Needless to say, it does not in any way address the question, but merely seeks to sidestep it.
‘Maazi’
Thank you – I’ve seen your response.
Needless to say, it does not in any way address the question, but merely seeks to sidestep it.
For now, I will restrict my reply to the last comment I made “>on this thread
‘Maazi’
Another question for you: why should a gay people be considered “guilty” for engaging in a particular activity, when a straight would be considered “innocent” when he/she engaged in the same activity? (And PLEASE don’t tell us that two things that are clearly the same, are in fact “different” in Africa!)
‘Maazi’
How will the Bahati Bill be made to ‘conform to the tenets of the Ugandan Constitution’?
May I add that I am confident that the vast majority of the Ugandan people shall be proud of this new legal instrument against sexual perversion in our nation. Anyone who is “innocent” and believes in the rule of law has absolutely nothing to fear. All scare-mongering from pro-gay propagandists should be dismissed with a wave of the hand because the provisions in the revised Bahati Bill shall be made to conform to the tenets of the Ugandan constitution.
‘Maazi’
Another question for you: why should a gay people be considered “guilty” for engaging in a particular activity, when a straight would be considered “innocent” when he/she engaged in the same activity? (And PLEASE don’t tell us that two things that are clearly the same, are in fact “different” in Africa!)
‘Maazi’
How will the Bahati Bill be made to ‘conform to the tenets of the Ugandan Constitution’?
May I add that I am confident that the vast majority of the Ugandan people shall be proud of this new legal instrument against sexual perversion in our nation. Anyone who is “innocent” and believes in the rule of law has absolutely nothing to fear. All scare-mongering from pro-gay propagandists should be dismissed with a wave of the hand because the provisions in the revised Bahati Bill shall be made to conform to the tenets of the Ugandan constitution.
Whoops – the link for item 4. above should be: http://www.monitor.co.ug/News/National/-/688334/1056706/-/cl5w74z/-/index.html
On Bahati himself: he has ‘won’ his seat unopposed, and thus appears ‘strong’. However, apart from the Sudan business, there may be other ‘questions marks’ regarding his true position …
1. on campaigns funds: http://www.monitor.co.ug/SpecialReports/Elections/-/859108/1084594/-/jnamxk/-/index.html
2. on the ‘fairness’ of his ‘election’ as an MP in the Ninth Parliament: http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/13/743336?highlight&q=bahati
3. on the conduct of his campaign in the NRM primaries: http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/13/731046?highlight&q=bahati
4. on his loyalty to M7: http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/13/731046?highlight&q=bahati
Plus the item I alluded to earlier (but it would be improper of me to give details); also ‘sources’ close to senior NRM people have made a few ‘comments’ to me (again, it would not be appropriate for me to say who these ‘sources’ are, or what they said).
I do love my Ugandan friends! Loyal, intelligent, cultured (in the proper sense) and always interesting to talk to.
ok, ok… that was lame…
thanx Rich… u gotta love Uganda… if the bahatites dont getcha, laughter will!
Good point, Ken.
He may be ‘hot water’ on another issue too … but I can’t really say anything about that, as I’ve no conclusive evidence for it.
I’d think Bahati would love to talk about the bill, because then he isn’t being asked about the reparations for grain shipments to the Sudan.
Anteros –
I love your comment! *sides splitting with laughter*
Interestingly, the New Vision isn’t talking about the Bill either. Hmmmm. I know, from a range of sources, that it (the Bill) has proved somewhat ’embarrassing’ to some senior people in the UG body politic.
that’s gotta be a hard question for bahati to answer, especially at this point in time. what else can he say?
“hey, i didnt know things would blow up in my face the way they did… it was a bad idea… i really shouldnt have listened to lively and ssempa” or
“shhh! please dont fuel the public debate by bringing up that bill!” or
“man, i am so sick of this whole thing! please make it go away!” or
“i wont talk about that bill ever again… not because obama, museveni and the whole world thinks it stinks… it’s just that i’ve decided to focus more on the issues faced by people in ndorwa west who i’ll automatically be representing again in parliament. it’s not a campaign thing – i’ve never had to pay attention to their issues anyway. i just wanna live right.” or
“hey, i just found out that my favorite cousin and my best friend are both gay. i take it all back… homosexuality isnt the creeping evil cancer i was led to believe it was…” or
“oops! about that bill… i didnt know that uganda had gender neutral laws that protect both boys and girls from pedophiles. i didnt even know that uganda had a constitution and that privacy’s in that constitution. oh well. i guess we never stop learning.” or
“…bill? …what bill?”
Whoops – the link for item 4. above should be: http://www.monitor.co.ug/News/National/-/688334/1056706/-/cl5w74z/-/index.html
On Bahati himself: he has ‘won’ his seat unopposed, and thus appears ‘strong’. However, apart from the Sudan business, there may be other ‘questions marks’ regarding his true position …
1. on campaigns funds: http://www.monitor.co.ug/SpecialReports/Elections/-/859108/1084594/-/jnamxk/-/index.html
2. on the ‘fairness’ of his ‘election’ as an MP in the Ninth Parliament: http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/13/743336?highlight&q=bahati
3. on the conduct of his campaign in the NRM primaries: http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/13/731046?highlight&q=bahati
4. on his loyalty to M7: http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/13/731046?highlight&q=bahati
Plus the item I alluded to earlier (but it would be improper of me to give details); also ‘sources’ close to senior NRM people have made a few ‘comments’ to me (again, it would not be appropriate for me to say who these ‘sources’ are, or what they said).
I do love my Ugandan friends! Loyal, intelligent, cultured (in the proper sense) and always interesting to talk to.
ok, ok… that was lame…
thanx Rich… u gotta love Uganda… if the bahatites dont getcha, laughter will!
Good point, Ken.
He may be ‘hot water’ on another issue too … but I can’t really say anything about that, as I’ve no conclusive evidence for it.
I’d think Bahati would love to talk about the bill, because then he isn’t being asked about the reparations for grain shipments to the Sudan.
Anteros –
I love your comment! *sides splitting with laughter*
Interestingly, the New Vision isn’t talking about the Bill either. Hmmmm. I know, from a range of sources, that it (the Bill) has proved somewhat ’embarrassing’ to some senior people in the UG body politic.
that’s gotta be a hard question for bahati to answer, especially at this point in time. what else can he say?
“hey, i didnt know things would blow up in my face the way they did… it was a bad idea… i really shouldnt have listened to lively and ssempa” or
“shhh! please dont fuel the public debate by bringing up that bill!” or
“man, i am so sick of this whole thing! please make it go away!” or
“i wont talk about that bill ever again… not because obama, museveni and the whole world thinks it stinks… it’s just that i’ve decided to focus more on the issues faced by people in ndorwa west who i’ll automatically be representing again in parliament. it’s not a campaign thing – i’ve never had to pay attention to their issues anyway. i just wanna live right.” or
“hey, i just found out that my favorite cousin and my best friend are both gay. i take it all back… homosexuality isnt the creeping evil cancer i was led to believe it was…” or
“oops! about that bill… i didnt know that uganda had gender neutral laws that protect both boys and girls from pedophiles. i didnt even know that uganda had a constitution and that privacy’s in that constitution. oh well. i guess we never stop learning.” or
“…bill? …what bill?”