It “helps” to get things “mixed up” if your goal is to avoid the real issues by derailing the discussion with nonsense.

You are right about the term woke, but there is an academic description of CRT. However, as you suggest, in popular usage, conservative critics have made it a catch all for any discussion of race conservatives don’t like.

Deleted and banned.

They’re only strange bedfellows if you make the mistake of believing this is about religious faith and not the culture war. It’s always about the culture war (i.e. right wing politics). Lindsay is popular because he belongs to the IDW strand of “former liberals” who blame the Democrats and their “wokeness” for making them vote for Trump.

Once upon a time, evangelicals despised and distrusted Mormons and Catholics, but these days they’re more than happy to line up shoulder to shoulder with Mormons and conservative Catholics (i.e. any Catholic who is in lock step with the Catholic Church’s doctrines but is suspicious of Pope Francis) in their war against the left.

Allowing others to re-define words for you, means they control what you can say. Instead, I think people should use the words as intended (as Warren did in his post).

AHH correctly interpreted the purpose of my post. It was sarcasm.

Big K is a troll and best ignored.

ken is not a troll — I think he was just highlighting how the dominant “white” cultures of our era have tended to erase the reality that the Hebrew nation (including Jesus!) was of darker skin than indicated by their typical portrayals as white in Western art, etc. Sunday Schools and movies show us a brown-haired white Jesus, rather than the real Middle Eastern Jewish Jesus whose ethnicity would be unwelcome for some modern white people.