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		By: JR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2021 19:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113398&quot;&gt;Bones&lt;/a&gt;.

You’re unhinged and irrational. No way to interact with you on the level of the normal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113398">Bones</a>.</p>
<p>You’re unhinged and irrational. No way to interact with you on the level of the normal.</p>
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		By: Headless Unicorn Guy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Headless Unicorn Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2021 23:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113398&quot;&gt;Bones&lt;/a&gt;.

Because they have made themselves so Spiritual they have cut themselves off from Reality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113398">Bones</a>.</p>
<p>Because they have made themselves so Spiritual they have cut themselves off from Reality.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 17:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113461&quot;&gt;TV&lt;/a&gt;.

And if you had said something like this to begin with rather than your hyperbole about CRT we wouldn&#039;t have wasted all that bandwidth on it.  



Do you think racism is a serious problem in the US? 



How significant do you think systemic racism is in the problems facing blacks (and other minorities) in the US today?  What other issues do you think are contributing to these problems and how significant do you think these other issues are?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113461">TV</a>.</p>
<p>And if you had said something like this to begin with rather than your hyperbole about CRT we wouldn&#8217;t have wasted all that bandwidth on it.  </p>
<p>Do you think racism is a serious problem in the US? </p>
<p>How significant do you think systemic racism is in the problems facing blacks (and other minorities) in the US today?  What other issues do you think are contributing to these problems and how significant do you think these other issues are?</p>
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		By: TV		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 13:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113459&quot;&gt;ken&lt;/a&gt;.

Fine, CRT may not be blaming the problems in the Black community on systemic racism, they still claim that the legacy of slavery and segregation is the main cause of those problems.  That no matter what could be wrong within the Black community, it is nothing compared to the existence of the systemic racism which still continues today and where Whites are still benefiting from it.  That&#039;s what I got out of reading Tatum&#039;s book and of other critical race theorists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113459">ken</a>.</p>
<p>Fine, CRT may not be blaming the problems in the Black community on systemic racism, they still claim that the legacy of slavery and segregation is the main cause of those problems.  That no matter what could be wrong within the Black community, it is nothing compared to the existence of the systemic racism which still continues today and where Whites are still benefiting from it.  That&#8217;s what I got out of reading Tatum&#8217;s book and of other critical race theorists.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 12:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113458&quot;&gt;TV&lt;/a&gt;.

so back to my original question:  




Can you cite a reputable source on CRT that claims it &quot;blames it (problems in black communities) &lt;strong&gt;ENTIRELY&lt;/strong&gt; on the legacy of racism&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113458">TV</a>.</p>
<p>so back to my original question:  </p>
<p>Can you cite a reputable source on CRT that claims it &#8220;blames it (problems in black communities) <strong>ENTIRELY</strong> on the legacy of racism&#8221;?</p>
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		By: TV		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 12:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113457&quot;&gt;ken&lt;/a&gt;.

I think it&#039;s fair to say that Tatum does not deny individual poor choices that people in the Black community tend to make, it is still systemic racism, which carries the legacy of slavery and segregation that influences them to make those poor choices.  Remember, she writes it as a psychologist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113457">ken</a>.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s fair to say that Tatum does not deny individual poor choices that people in the Black community tend to make, it is still systemic racism, which carries the legacy of slavery and segregation that influences them to make those poor choices.  Remember, she writes it as a psychologist.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 11:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113453&quot;&gt;TV&lt;/a&gt;.

Again you avoid answering a simple question.  



does Tatum claim &quot;CRT blames it (the problems with Black communities in the US) &lt;strong&gt;entirely&lt;/strong&gt; on the legacy of racism&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113453">TV</a>.</p>
<p>Again you avoid answering a simple question.  </p>
<p>does Tatum claim &#8220;CRT blames it (the problems with Black communities in the US) <strong>entirely</strong> on the legacy of racism&#8221;?</p>
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		By: TV		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 04:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113452&quot;&gt;ken&lt;/a&gt;.

Tatum is a critical race theorist from the position of psychology because she writes about systemic racism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113452">ken</a>.</p>
<p>Tatum is a critical race theorist from the position of psychology because she writes about systemic racism.</p>
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		By: TV		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113451</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 03:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113449&quot;&gt;ken&lt;/a&gt;.

While Tatum barely acknowledges the internal problems in the African-American community, she still holds the systemic racism, including the legacy of slavery , as a tremendous impact on those problems.]]></description>
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<p>While Tatum barely acknowledges the internal problems in the African-American community, she still holds the systemic racism, including the legacy of slavery , as a tremendous impact on those problems.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 00:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113451&quot;&gt;TV&lt;/a&gt;.

And I agree with Tatum, systemic racism does have a tremendous impact on the problems in minority communities (and not just black ones, in my opinion).  


However what &lt;em&gt;YOU&lt;/em&gt; said was: 


&quot;Because  it (CRT) blames it entirely on the legacy of racism,  this is a very biased theory.&quot;


And when I asked for a source of this claim, you cited Tatum.  But Tatum doesn&#039;t claim &quot;CRT blames it &lt;strong&gt;entirely&lt;/strong&gt; on the legacy of racism&quot; does she?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/09/22/josh-mcdowell-steps-away-from-ministry/#comment-113451">TV</a>.</p>
<p>And I agree with Tatum, systemic racism does have a tremendous impact on the problems in minority communities (and not just black ones, in my opinion).  </p>
<p>However what <em>YOU</em> said was: </p>
<p>&#8220;Because  it (CRT) blames it entirely on the legacy of racism,  this is a very biased theory.&#8221;</p>
<p>And when I asked for a source of this claim, you cited Tatum.  But Tatum doesn&#8217;t claim &#8220;CRT blames it <strong>entirely</strong> on the legacy of racism&#8221; does she?</p>
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