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	Comments on: Some Questions for Francis Chan, K.P. Yohannan, &#038; Gospel for Asia about Believers Church and Ring Kissing	</title>
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		By: Pat Kirwan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I only just saw this Francis Chan and KP video and would like to comment....

It strikes me as being brilliant at presenting a spiritual face to deceive weak Western believers, while skillfully avoiding the entire issue.
WHERE IS THE MISSING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS?!


It&#039;s really bizarre. They talk about needing millions to pay off a class action lawsuit they lost, but do in such a way that
people won&#039;t even stop and think, &quot;how come they lost and have been forced to pay tens of millions of dollars to people?&quot;


I won&#039;t even touch the ridiculous bold-faced lies by KP about his ring-kissing fetish etc.
WAKE UP AND DON&#039;T ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE DECEIVED BY SMOOTH TALKING RELIGIOUS PROFESSIONALS. The Lord Jesus will unmask this fully, but only a fool would continue to support this corrupt ministry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only just saw this Francis Chan and KP video and would like to comment&#8230;.</p>
<p>It strikes me as being brilliant at presenting a spiritual face to deceive weak Western believers, while skillfully avoiding the entire issue.<br />
WHERE IS THE MISSING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS?!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really bizarre. They talk about needing millions to pay off a class action lawsuit they lost, but do in such a way that<br />
people won&#8217;t even stop and think, &#8220;how come they lost and have been forced to pay tens of millions of dollars to people?&#8221;</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t even touch the ridiculous bold-faced lies by KP about his ring-kissing fetish etc.<br />
WAKE UP AND DON&#8217;T ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE DECEIVED BY SMOOTH TALKING RELIGIOUS PROFESSIONALS. The Lord Jesus will unmask this fully, but only a fool would continue to support this corrupt ministry.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2019 03:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/08/02/some-questions-for-francis-chan-k-p-yohannan-gospel-for-asia-about-believers-church-and-ring-kissing/#comment-103249&quot;&gt;David Rahrer&lt;/a&gt;.

Of course, comments on a blog alone are not sufficient to make sound assessments of a person&#039;s honour.


I think the theology is calvinistic in some way.  I took aim and fired at one of my Calvinist bugbears (Limited Atonement - a ghastly idea that IMO effectively implies that some human beings are &#039;less than human&#039; ... and we all know where that kind of thinking can lead) and he didn&#039;t seem too pleased!



Yes, the avatar!  I was wondering about that ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/08/02/some-questions-for-francis-chan-k-p-yohannan-gospel-for-asia-about-believers-church-and-ring-kissing/#comment-103249">David Rahrer</a>.</p>
<p>Of course, comments on a blog alone are not sufficient to make sound assessments of a person&#8217;s honour.</p>
<p>I think the theology is calvinistic in some way.  I took aim and fired at one of my Calvinist bugbears (Limited Atonement &#8211; a ghastly idea that IMO effectively implies that some human beings are &#8216;less than human&#8217; &#8230; and we all know where that kind of thinking can lead) and he didn&#8217;t seem too pleased!</p>
<p>Yes, the avatar!  I was wondering about that &#8230;</p>
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		By: David Rahrer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Rahrer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2019 18:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/08/02/some-questions-for-francis-chan-k-p-yohannan-gospel-for-asia-about-believers-church-and-ring-kissing/#comment-103247&quot;&gt;Richard Willmer&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m not sure his comments here are enough for me to determine if he is honorable or not, but his theology definitely seems a bit strange, I&#039;ll grant you that. One thing is for sure, his avatar is poorly chosen!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/08/02/some-questions-for-francis-chan-k-p-yohannan-gospel-for-asia-about-believers-church-and-ring-kissing/#comment-103247">Richard Willmer</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure his comments here are enough for me to determine if he is honorable or not, but his theology definitely seems a bit strange, I&#8217;ll grant you that. One thing is for sure, his avatar is poorly chosen!</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2019 17:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/08/02/some-questions-for-francis-chan-k-p-yohannan-gospel-for-asia-about-believers-church-and-ring-kissing/#comment-103245&quot;&gt;David Rahrer&lt;/a&gt;.

I didn&#039;t realize he blocked people.  Pity - he should just hold his own positions and agree or disagree with others as he sees fit.


His theology is IMHO somewhat suspect (to put it mildly), but, from what I can see, I think he is an honourable guy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/08/02/some-questions-for-francis-chan-k-p-yohannan-gospel-for-asia-about-believers-church-and-ring-kissing/#comment-103245">David Rahrer</a>.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t realize he blocked people.  Pity &#8211; he should just hold his own positions and agree or disagree with others as he sees fit.</p>
<p>His theology is IMHO somewhat suspect (to put it mildly), but, from what I can see, I think he is an honourable guy.</p>
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		By: David Rahrer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2019 15:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/08/02/some-questions-for-francis-chan-k-p-yohannan-gospel-for-asia-about-believers-church-and-ring-kissing/#comment-103230&quot;&gt;Richard Willmer&lt;/a&gt;.

Well rest assured, Mr J will never see it since I&#039;m pretty sure he still has me, along with others, blocked.  He doesn&#039;t take criticism well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/08/02/some-questions-for-francis-chan-k-p-yohannan-gospel-for-asia-about-believers-church-and-ring-kissing/#comment-103230">Richard Willmer</a>.</p>
<p>Well rest assured, Mr J will never see it since I&#8217;m pretty sure he still has me, along with others, blocked.  He doesn&#8217;t take criticism well.</p>
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