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		By: Lynn Betts		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In a similar context to this question of Peterson answering some &quot;Big Questions&quot; of faith/theology/philosophy, I see that Nicholas Kristoff has an interview with evangelical apologist William Lane Craig in this week&#039;s NYTimes. I have no problem with the answers he gives, but I don&#039;t think they are all that different - in important ways - than Peterson&#039;s approach is in the clip.

Which goes back to my original post that the way we answer &quot;Big Questions&quot; about our faith should depend heavily on the inquirer/audience.

Two of the Q/As:
Kristoff: You don’t believe the Genesis account that the world was created in six days, or that Eve was made from Adam’s rib, do you? If the Hebrew Bible’s stories need not be taken literally, why not also accept that the New Testament writers took liberties?

Craig: Because the Gospels are a different type of literature than the primeval history of Genesis 1-11. The eminent Assyriologist Thorkild Jacobsen described Genesis 1-11 as history clothed in the figurative language of mythology, a genre he dubbed “mytho-history.” By contrast, the consensus among historians is that the Gospels belong to the genre of ancient biography, like the ‘Lives of Greeks and Romans’ written by Plutarch. As such, they aim to provide a historically reliable account.

Kristoff: How do you account for the many contradictions within the New Testament? For example, Matthew says Judas hanged himself, while Acts says that he “burst open.” They can’t both be right, so why insist on inerrancy of Scripture?

Craig: I don’t insist on the inerrancy of Scripture. Rather, what I insist on is what C.S. Lewis called “mere Christianity,” that is to say, the core doctrines of Christianity. Harmonizing perceived contradictions in the Bible is a matter of in-house discussion amongst Christians. What really matters are questions like: Does God exist? Are there objective moral values? Was Jesus truly God and truly man? How did his death on a Roman cross serve to overcome our moral wrongdoing and estrangement from God? These are, as one philosopher puts it, the “questions that matter,” not how Judas died.


There is more, but I don&#039;t want to violate the spirit or laws. I hope you can read the full interview and respond. The Times allows 10 articles to be read for free each month, so you may hit a paywall with the link:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/21/opinion/sunday/christmas-christian-craig.html?em_pos=small&#038;emc=edit_ty_20181224&#038;nl=opinion-today&#038;nl_art=3&#038;nlid=80403793emc%3Dedit_ty_20181224&#038;ref=headline&#038;te=1]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a similar context to this question of Peterson answering some &#8220;Big Questions&#8221; of faith/theology/philosophy, I see that Nicholas Kristoff has an interview with evangelical apologist William Lane Craig in this week&#8217;s NYTimes. I have no problem with the answers he gives, but I don&#8217;t think they are all that different &#8211; in important ways &#8211; than Peterson&#8217;s approach is in the clip.</p>
<p>Which goes back to my original post that the way we answer &#8220;Big Questions&#8221; about our faith should depend heavily on the inquirer/audience.</p>
<p>Two of the Q/As:<br />
Kristoff: You don’t believe the Genesis account that the world was created in six days, or that Eve was made from Adam’s rib, do you? If the Hebrew Bible’s stories need not be taken literally, why not also accept that the New Testament writers took liberties?</p>
<p>Craig: Because the Gospels are a different type of literature than the primeval history of Genesis 1-11. The eminent Assyriologist Thorkild Jacobsen described Genesis 1-11 as history clothed in the figurative language of mythology, a genre he dubbed “mytho-history.” By contrast, the consensus among historians is that the Gospels belong to the genre of ancient biography, like the ‘Lives of Greeks and Romans’ written by Plutarch. As such, they aim to provide a historically reliable account.</p>
<p>Kristoff: How do you account for the many contradictions within the New Testament? For example, Matthew says Judas hanged himself, while Acts says that he “burst open.” They can’t both be right, so why insist on inerrancy of Scripture?</p>
<p>Craig: I don’t insist on the inerrancy of Scripture. Rather, what I insist on is what C.S. Lewis called “mere Christianity,” that is to say, the core doctrines of Christianity. Harmonizing perceived contradictions in the Bible is a matter of in-house discussion amongst Christians. What really matters are questions like: Does God exist? Are there objective moral values? Was Jesus truly God and truly man? How did his death on a Roman cross serve to overcome our moral wrongdoing and estrangement from God? These are, as one philosopher puts it, the “questions that matter,” not how Judas died.</p>
<p>There is more, but I don&#8217;t want to violate the spirit or laws. I hope you can read the full interview and respond. The Times allows 10 articles to be read for free each month, so you may hit a paywall with the link:<br />
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/21/opinion/sunday/christmas-christian-craig.html?em_pos=small&#038;emc=edit_ty_20181224&#038;nl=opinion-today&#038;nl_art=3&#038;nlid=80403793emc%3Dedit_ty_20181224&#038;ref=headline&#038;te=1" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/21/opinion/sunday/christmas-christian-craig.html?em_pos=small&#038;emc=edit_ty_20181224&#038;nl=opinion-today&#038;nl_art=3&#038;nlid=80403793emc%3Dedit_ty_20181224&#038;ref=headline&#038;te=1</a></p>
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		By: otrotierra		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2018 01:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/17/jordan-peterson-agonizes-over-how-to-answer-a-question-about-god/#comment-99053&quot;&gt;Lynn Betts&lt;/a&gt;.

Jordan Peterson cannot answer even the most elementary theological questions. It&#039;s quite telling that so many others, like Reverend Dr. William Barber as just one example, don&#039;t hide behind such obfuscation.  

Jordan Peterson&#039;s vacuous theology is on full display for all to see.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/17/jordan-peterson-agonizes-over-how-to-answer-a-question-about-god/#comment-99053">Lynn Betts</a>.</p>
<p>Jordan Peterson cannot answer even the most elementary theological questions. It&#8217;s quite telling that so many others, like Reverend Dr. William Barber as just one example, don&#8217;t hide behind such obfuscation.  </p>
<p>Jordan Peterson&#8217;s vacuous theology is on full display for all to see.</p>
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		By: otrotierra		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2018 01:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The answer is easy: Jordan Peterson believes in Jordan Peterson. His low standards of self-serving, self-centered self-worship are unsurprisingly attractive to White Evangelicals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer is easy: Jordan Peterson believes in Jordan Peterson. His low standards of self-serving, self-centered self-worship are unsurprisingly attractive to White Evangelicals.</p>
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		By: David W Lacey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2018 23:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Both Jung and Peterson was/are humanists in their world view, and it expresses itself when Peterson is asked of scriptural and matters of religion. Using scriptural in-group dialog seems to be his gateway into expanding his reader base - which sells books. First there was Spock, then Dr. Phil, now Peterson. When will people be learned?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both Jung and Peterson was/are humanists in their world view, and it expresses itself when Peterson is asked of scriptural and matters of religion. Using scriptural in-group dialog seems to be his gateway into expanding his reader base &#8211; which sells books. First there was Spock, then Dr. Phil, now Peterson. When will people be learned?</p>
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		By: nathankc		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2018 22:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/17/jordan-peterson-agonizes-over-how-to-answer-a-question-about-god/#comment-99053&quot;&gt;Lynn Betts&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s a cop out and a lack of basic conversational skills and an ability to seek understanding. But, I&#039;ll grant some grace that it&#039;s a hypothetical poser of the question and not a &#039;real&#039; question. But - the most correct way to deal with that is to go ahead and pose the question: &quot;what do you mean by the divine, or by Christ&quot; and then answer according to the proposition in terms given. If somebody responds &quot;Oh, by Christ I mean the demi god that populated his own planet as a result of splitting his hair in a lake of lava on the distant planet Megalorn&quot; - well...then...no, I don&#039;t believe that. It&#039;s not difficult :D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/17/jordan-peterson-agonizes-over-how-to-answer-a-question-about-god/#comment-99053">Lynn Betts</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a cop out and a lack of basic conversational skills and an ability to seek understanding. But, I&#8217;ll grant some grace that it&#8217;s a hypothetical poser of the question and not a &#8216;real&#8217; question. But &#8211; the most correct way to deal with that is to go ahead and pose the question: &#8220;what do you mean by the divine, or by Christ&#8221; and then answer according to the proposition in terms given. If somebody responds &#8220;Oh, by Christ I mean the demi god that populated his own planet as a result of splitting his hair in a lake of lava on the distant planet Megalorn&#8221; &#8211; well&#8230;then&#8230;no, I don&#8217;t believe that. It&#8217;s not difficult 😀</p>
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