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		By: Warren Throckmorton		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2016/08/25/the-popular-bonhoeffer-quote-that-isnt-in-bonhoeffers-works/#comment-112281&quot;&gt;robineggblue82&lt;/a&gt;.

It is possible but look at the first time it occurred. It was long after his death. If he said it in a speech, it seems like someone would have written it down or written about it closer to when he was alive. It should be pointed out that Metaxas has never given a source for it. He just used it without doing the scholarly work necessary to source it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2016/08/25/the-popular-bonhoeffer-quote-that-isnt-in-bonhoeffers-works/#comment-112281">robineggblue82</a>.</p>
<p>It is possible but look at the first time it occurred. It was long after his death. If he said it in a speech, it seems like someone would have written it down or written about it closer to when he was alive. It should be pointed out that Metaxas has never given a source for it. He just used it without doing the scholarly work necessary to source it.</p>
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		By: Warren Throckmorton		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2016/08/25/the-popular-bonhoeffer-quote-that-isnt-in-bonhoeffers-works/#comment-112281&quot;&gt;robineggblue82&lt;/a&gt;.

It is possible but look at the first time it occurred. It was long after his death. If he said it in a speech, it seems like someone would have written it down or written about it closer to when he was alive. It should be pointed out that Metaxas has never given a source for it. He just used it without doing the scholarly work necessary to source it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2016/08/25/the-popular-bonhoeffer-quote-that-isnt-in-bonhoeffers-works/#comment-112281">robineggblue82</a>.</p>
<p>It is possible but look at the first time it occurred. It was long after his death. If he said it in a speech, it seems like someone would have written it down or written about it closer to when he was alive. It should be pointed out that Metaxas has never given a source for it. He just used it without doing the scholarly work necessary to source it.</p>
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		By: robineggblue82		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2021 09:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is it possible it was in a speech or sermon of his and someone else recorded it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible it was in a speech or sermon of his and someone else recorded it?</p>
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		By: robineggblue82		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is it possible it was in a speech or sermon of his and someone else recorded it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible it was in a speech or sermon of his and someone else recorded it?</p>
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		By: Warren Throckmorton		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2016/08/25/the-popular-bonhoeffer-quote-that-isnt-in-bonhoeffers-works/#comment-100713</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2019 20:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2016/08/25/the-popular-bonhoeffer-quote-that-isnt-in-bonhoeffers-works/#comment-100704&quot;&gt;Steve Perisho&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for your work and for the comment here!]]></description>
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<p>Thanks for your work and for the comment here!</p>
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		By: Steve Perisho		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Prof. Throckmorton:

I first posted on this on 1 March 2016:  https://liberlocorumcommunium.blogspot.com/2016/03/pseudo-bonhoeffer.html.  Looks like we got the same response from Metaxas.

As for what Mr. McPherson says below (and I say above), it is possible to find this on German websites in German.  But given that 1) they differ in their renditions, and 2) that the German isn&#039;t there in DBW (searchable via the Alexander Press database Twentieth Century Religious Thought:  Vol. 1, Christianity), those would have to be examples of back-translation (!).

Best,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prof. Throckmorton:</p>
<p>I first posted on this on 1 March 2016:  <a href="https://liberlocorumcommunium.blogspot.com/2016/03/pseudo-bonhoeffer.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://liberlocorumcommunium.blogspot.com/2016/03/pseudo-bonhoeffer.html</a>.  Looks like we got the same response from Metaxas.</p>
<p>As for what Mr. McPherson says below (and I say above), it is possible to find this on German websites in German.  But given that 1) they differ in their renditions, and 2) that the German isn&#8217;t there in DBW (searchable via the Alexander Press database Twentieth Century Religious Thought:  Vol. 1, Christianity), those would have to be examples of back-translation (!).</p>
<p>Best,</p>
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		By: Daniel 'n' Terry Unruh		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2016/08/25/the-popular-bonhoeffer-quote-that-isnt-in-bonhoeffers-works/#comment-100062</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel 'n' Terry Unruh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2019 04:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2016/08/25/the-popular-bonhoeffer-quote-that-isnt-in-bonhoeffers-works/#comment-100042&quot;&gt;team911lotus&lt;/a&gt;.

Abraham Lincoln famously said &quot;You can&#039;t believe everything you read on the Internet&quot;.  The quote is the truth, very helpful and definitely something Mr. Lincoln would have had the wisdom to perceive and state.  So what does it really matter if he said if or not … it&#039;s great advice and the world would be a much better place if more people heeded it.
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Just curious whether you consider truth of any importance in your world view?
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And even more curious how on earth you managed to drag the &quot;free masons&quot; into the discussion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2016/08/25/the-popular-bonhoeffer-quote-that-isnt-in-bonhoeffers-works/#comment-100042">team911lotus</a>.</p>
<p>Abraham Lincoln famously said &#8220;You can&#8217;t believe everything you read on the Internet&#8221;.  The quote is the truth, very helpful and definitely something Mr. Lincoln would have had the wisdom to perceive and state.  So what does it really matter if he said if or not … it&#8217;s great advice and the world would be a much better place if more people heeded it.<br />
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Just curious whether you consider truth of any importance in your world view?<br />
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And even more curious how on earth you managed to drag the &#8220;free masons&#8221; into the discussion.</p>
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		By: Warren Throckmorton		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2016/08/25/the-popular-bonhoeffer-quote-that-isnt-in-bonhoeffers-works/#comment-100063</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren Throckmorton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2019 23:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2016/08/25/the-popular-bonhoeffer-quote-that-isnt-in-bonhoeffers-works/#comment-100062&quot;&gt;Daniel &#039;n&#039; Terry Unruh&lt;/a&gt;.

Careful Unruhs, you are getting masonic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2016/08/25/the-popular-bonhoeffer-quote-that-isnt-in-bonhoeffers-works/#comment-100062">Daniel &#8216;n&#8217; Terry Unruh</a>.</p>
<p>Careful Unruhs, you are getting masonic.</p>
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		By: team911lotus		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2019 22:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2016/08/25/the-popular-bonhoeffer-quote-that-isnt-in-bonhoeffers-works/#comment-100056&quot;&gt;Warren Throckmorton&lt;/a&gt;.

If accuracy is the most important thing for the force you are fighting for, rather than love, peace, the saving of lives and stuff like this than you should overthink where it originates from.


There is no point in questioning whether Bonhoeffer has actually said the quote (which he did) because this is not the point - all you end up with your article is to take away from Bonhoeffer&#039;s lifework as it is already in the conscious mind of humanity that he said it for it fits his lifetime achievements like a nail on the head. It is nit-picking what you do. Your motivation is not to be accurate, maybe you do not realize but all you accomplish with this article is bring general doubt in the mind of people and the next time anyone is able to save someone else&#039;s life he could hesitate, remembering the doubt you brought into his mind while without it, he would save the life. 

In addition I think this is the ultimate goal of your effort, at least in this article. Do you write others discouraging people from acting honourably?

As it is, you are basically responsible for the possible deaths of tens of thousand in the future, so better think about what you do next time. 



Btw, this whole article reeks of masonic misdirection.]]></description>
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<p>If accuracy is the most important thing for the force you are fighting for, rather than love, peace, the saving of lives and stuff like this than you should overthink where it originates from.</p>
<p>There is no point in questioning whether Bonhoeffer has actually said the quote (which he did) because this is not the point &#8211; all you end up with your article is to take away from Bonhoeffer&#8217;s lifework as it is already in the conscious mind of humanity that he said it for it fits his lifetime achievements like a nail on the head. It is nit-picking what you do. Your motivation is not to be accurate, maybe you do not realize but all you accomplish with this article is bring general doubt in the mind of people and the next time anyone is able to save someone else&#8217;s life he could hesitate, remembering the doubt you brought into his mind while without it, he would save the life. </p>
<p>In addition I think this is the ultimate goal of your effort, at least in this article. Do you write others discouraging people from acting honourably?</p>
<p>As it is, you are basically responsible for the possible deaths of tens of thousand in the future, so better think about what you do next time. </p>
<p>Btw, this whole article reeks of masonic misdirection.</p>
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		By: team911lotus		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2019 17:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2016/08/25/the-popular-bonhoeffer-quote-that-isnt-in-bonhoeffers-works/#comment-100058&quot;&gt;Warren Throckmorton&lt;/a&gt;.

This sounds more like the juvenile version of Warren Throckmorton.]]></description>
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<p>This sounds more like the juvenile version of Warren Throckmorton.</p>
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