Comments on: Institute on the Constitution: Notes on Session 10 – War Between the States and Women's Suffrage Dilutes the Franchise https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/09/13/institute-on-the-constitution-notes-on-session-10-war-between-the-states-and-womens-suffrage-dilutes-the-franchise/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Wed, 30 May 2018 19:00:08 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.3 By: Warren https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/09/13/institute-on-the-constitution-notes-on-session-10-war-between-the-states-and-womens-suffrage-dilutes-the-franchise/#comment-86144 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:00:08 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=15294#comment-86144 In reply to Patrocles.

Pat – The League appeals to “the War for Southern Independence” – to them it was not just Lincoln’s war but a war to liberate them. It does no good to associate it with Lincoln as if he simply wanted to go to war. All efforts to reduce the Civil War to a simple set of factors with one side being all good and the other being all bad is revisionism.

]]> By: Warren https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/09/13/institute-on-the-constitution-notes-on-session-10-war-between-the-states-and-womens-suffrage-dilutes-the-franchise/#comment-86145 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:00:08 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=15294#comment-86145 In reply to Patrocles.

Pat – Throughout our history, men have been expected to come to defense of the nation/state. The framers debated adding a religious exception to the requirement that men form a militia when needed. They didn’t. Many of them distrusted standing armies and expected all able bodied men to serve. Peroutka had no trouble with explaining the militia that way when discussing the 2nd amendment. All of a sudden he has a problem with compulsory service when discussing the 14th Amendment.

]]> By: Teresa https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/09/13/institute-on-the-constitution-notes-on-session-10-war-between-the-states-and-womens-suffrage-dilutes-the-franchise/#comment-76674 Wed, 30 May 2018 17:51:30 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=15294#comment-76674 Richard said:

(I’m surprised at you, Teresa – and slightly wondering what is your agenda here.)

I have no agenda, Richard. I have a commitment to t(T)ruth; however, it may discomfit me … or, anyone else.

]]> By: Warren https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/09/13/institute-on-the-constitution-notes-on-session-10-war-between-the-states-and-womens-suffrage-dilutes-the-franchise/#comment-57538 Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:50:48 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=15294#comment-57538 In reply to Patrocles.

Pat – The League appeals to “the War for Southern Independence” – to them it was not just Lincoln’s war but a war to liberate them. It does no good to associate it with Lincoln as if he simply wanted to go to war. All efforts to reduce the Civil War to a simple set of factors with one side being all good and the other being all bad is revisionism.

]]> By: Patrocles https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/09/13/institute-on-the-constitution-notes-on-session-10-war-between-the-states-and-womens-suffrage-dilutes-the-franchise/#comment-57537 Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:45:55 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=15294#comment-57537 My master Jesus Christ has a strong message: All worldly victories are temporary, and all “lost causes” will be put before the court again, at the Day of Judgement.
Also my master doesn’t approve of wars, and certainly not of “holy wars” – the attempts to sanctify Lincoln’s war are quite useless.

]]> By: Patrocles https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/09/13/institute-on-the-constitution-notes-on-session-10-war-between-the-states-and-womens-suffrage-dilutes-the-franchise/#comment-81429 Thu, 19 Sep 2013 08:45:55 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=15294#comment-81429 My master Jesus Christ has a strong message: All worldly victories are temporary, and all “lost causes” will be put before the court again, at the Day of Judgement.
Also my master doesn’t approve of wars, and certainly not of “holy wars” – the attempts to sanctify Lincoln’s war are quite useless.

]]> By: Gus https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/09/13/institute-on-the-constitution-notes-on-session-10-war-between-the-states-and-womens-suffrage-dilutes-the-franchise/#comment-57536 Wed, 18 Sep 2013 10:25:33 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=15294#comment-57536 Some people need to be dragged kicking and screaming into the last half of the 19th century when the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments were passed. The traitorous southern states lost the War of Southern Rebellion, now grow up and stop all this teenage-like nullification.
The South lost, get over it.

]]> By: Gus https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/09/13/institute-on-the-constitution-notes-on-session-10-war-between-the-states-and-womens-suffrage-dilutes-the-franchise/#comment-81426 Wed, 18 Sep 2013 06:25:33 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=15294#comment-81426 Some people need to be dragged kicking and screaming into the last half of the 19th century when the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments were passed. The traitorous southern states lost the War of Southern Rebellion, now grow up and stop all this teenage-like nullification.
The South lost, get over it.

]]> By: Richard Willmer https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/09/13/institute-on-the-constitution-notes-on-session-10-war-between-the-states-and-womens-suffrage-dilutes-the-franchise/#comment-57535 Tue, 17 Sep 2013 09:19:57 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=15294#comment-57535 (Nor is ‘truth’ the same as ‘fact’ in science, by the way. Facts are [revealed by] experimental results; ‘truth’ is concerned what is might be able to be deduced from the facts. Scientists, [preferably!] on the basis of facts, will propose theories; those theories are not the ‘truth’, but they are [or should be] the best available approximations to the ‘truth’ at a given juncture. As someone who has undertaken scientific research – producing a thesis with the catchy title “Mechanisms of Nitration and Oxidation in solutions of Dinitrogen Pentaoxide in Nitric Acid” [excellent reading for the insomniac!] – I have proposed theories about particular chemical processes. I expect other to improve on those theories – to find better [and this where ‘praxis’ often comes in] approximations to the ‘truth’ about what just what is going on those little ol’ test tubes. But this is not just how science works – it is how LIFE [you know, that thing that God has given to us] works. Falling back on [IMO highly defective] assertions like ‘slavery is biblical’ is tantamount to living life in reverse gear! I would suggest that such ‘backsliding’ is most certainly against devine and natural law; as creatures in God’s image, we are ‘hard-wired’ to want ‘a better tomorrow’ … so thinking that ‘yesterday’s failed ideas’ might have ‘creative merit’ strikes me as both silly and anti-christian. Yes, the fact is that the Church has ‘tolerated’ [or worse] slavery; but the Truth is something else.)

]]> By: Richard Willmer https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/09/13/institute-on-the-constitution-notes-on-session-10-war-between-the-states-and-womens-suffrage-dilutes-the-franchise/#comment-57534 Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:44:26 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=15294#comment-57534 (Some people confuse ‘truth’ with ‘fact’; they are not the same thing in Christian dialectics … or indeed in the dialectics of many other faiths and philosophies.)

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