Just now, Martin Ssempa sent an email to me and several others including Rick Warren and Christianity Today with this statement. It is similar but not identical to the letter Christianity Today published on Thursday, the 17th. In this letter, the coalition discloses that 20 ministers met and read Rick Warren’s encyclical. It appears they did not consider Warren’s theological points but rather responded with a defense of the bill as written.
UGANDA NATIONAL PASTORS TASK FORCE AGAINST HOMOSEXUALITY
Task-force Chair: Martin Ssempa PhD
The taskforce represents
The National Fellowship of Born again Churches
The Seventh Adventists Church
The Uganda Joint Christian Council which also represents:
The Orthodox Church in Uganda.
The Roman Catholic Church in Uganda
The Islamiic Office of Social Welfare in Uganda
Born Again Faith Federation
Dear Rick Warren,
Christmas greetings from the Pro Faith, Family, and Human Rights Leaders here in Uganda. We acknowledge receipt of a letter from you in which you called on us (Ugandan Pastors) to “speak out” against the proposed “Anti-homosexuality Bill 2009” which is currently before our parliament. This bill has been greatly misrepresented by some homosexual activists causing hysteria and we take this opportunity to give you the background, facts and response to the concerns you raised. A special meeting of 20 denominational heads met on Thursday 17th Dec in the offices of the minister of Ethics and Integrity, examined your letter and formed a joint task force to respond to you as well as help support the parliament in the passage of this bill. We are further distressed by your unwarranted abuse of our duly elected officials who are in the process of making laws in the fulfillment of their mission and make demand that you biblically issue an apology for having wronged us as demonstrated by the facts of this letter.
Developments underlying the Bill
Several developments in Uganda and around the world constitute the compelling circumstances that have necessitated the Anti-homosexuality Bill. These include:
a) increasing incidents of homosexual abuse of children and youth by people exercising power and influence over them like teachers, pastors, parents etc. A recent report shows this. Uganda: Child Abuse rampant.;
b) recruitment of youth into homosexual practice with inducements including money. (Homosexual admits recruiting students). While we have a law that currently prohibits “acts against the order of nature”, this law is not comprehensive enough to cover the promoters of these acts. The draft law seeks to stop promotion and further recruitment of unsuspecting children and youth into homosexuality.
c) promotion of homosexuality by some organizations, including a pro-gay book by UNICEF circulated in schools without seeking permission of the Ministry of Education; (UNICEF Book supports teen homosexuality)
d) creation of organizations whose sole purpose is to promote homosexuality in Uganda; (e.g. (Sexual Minorities Uganda); (Gay Uganda); (Integrity Uganda)
e) government-led campaigns at the UN led by some countries like France and Brazil to secure a UN General Assembly resolution imposing homosexuality as an internationally protected human right. For example, on November 18th 2008, France and Netherlands initiated a law which seeks to use the UN to push homosexuality on other nations of the world. This explains provisions in the Bill preventing ratification of treaties and conventions affirming homosexuality and related practices.
f) un-believable growth in the power of the homosexual lobby in western countries, clearly seen since this Bill was proposed in Uganda – entire governments in Europe and America have used their diplomatic offices on an issue that should be freely debated and dealt with by their citizens at civil society level.
g) the mistake in western society, where the issue of homosexuality was treated with kid-gloves as a minor, private issue, but these societies are waking up too late on realizing that the matter affects how their entire society is ran, what children are taught at school and literally what everybody “must believe and practice”. This waking-up is for example seen in anti-gay-marriage campaigns in United States, where US citizens are fighting to retain family values against stiff competition from gay-activists in 31 states where the matter has come up for a referendum vote, winning such battles by the skin of their teeth. These countries are stuck with a huge population of their citizens that has been recruited into homosexual practice over decades of lax attitude that has seen the rise of powerful, well-funded organizations that misinform children and youth about homosexuality and daily recruit them into their ranks. This discontented population is angry, a threat to public order and is demanding equality for self-evident disordered and harmful behavior. This represents a mismanagement of human behavior by public institutions, because legal safeguards were not put in place in time to prevent the spread of homosexuality and related practices.
h) The take-over by homosexuals of western institutions that should have remained as defenders and protectors of moral integrity in society, particularly the church, to the extent that even evangelical church leaders in America no longer protest when a practicing homosexual is appointed into pastoral leadership in the church (e.g. the election to the office of Bishop of Mary Glasspool in your state of California last week and Gene Robinson in New Hampshire before her). This institutional takeover by homosexuals has been systematic and planned, to the extent that other bodies like the UN, national governments, financial institutions, private companies, NGOs, etc. have become spokespersons of the gay movement and daily use official resources to promote the gay agenda and to arm-twist anyone who opposes this agenda. In a globalized world, this western takeover of institutions by homosexuals has turned into international promotion of homosexuality and of other vices like abortion and pornography in other countries.
Some members of Parliament in Uganda have looked at all these developments as a threat to strongly held family values in Uganda and everywhere and have sought to use their mandate as people’s representatives to seek remedies before it is too late. The Anti-homosexuality Bill, 2009, therefore, while acknowledging that homosexuality is not an innate condition, states as its object: “to establish a comprehensive consolidated legislation to protect the traditional family by prohibiting (1) any form of sexual relations between persons of the same sex; and (2) the promotion or recognition of such sexual relations in public institutions and other places through or with the support of any Government entity in Uganda or any non-governmental organization inside or outside the country”.
What’s the death penalty all about?
Some people have asked about the rationale of a death penalty mentioned in the Bill. There has been a lot of misinformation about this matter with headlines such as: “Gays face death penalty in Uganda”. These headlines are deliberately misleading. This penalty applies only in special cases termed “aggravated homosexuality”, which include, those convicted of unlawful homosexual rape of a child or handicapped invalid; This is a conviction of paedophilles! As highlighted in the problem of “virgin rape cures HIV/AIDS” the offender can be a person living with HIV; a parent or guardian of the victim where there is abuse of authority! Finally is the use of drugs to stupefy the child so that they can rape them!. Clearly, the intent of this penalty is to protect weaker members of society from being victimized. Please note that for over 15 years Uganda has had the same penalty for persons who have carnal knowledge of minors heterosexually, mainly to protect against sexual abuse of girls by men. This time, this provision intends to provide equal protection of boys, among others.
In the early 1990s, at the height of the HIV Crisis, Uganda sought to protect children, principally girls, from sexual abuse by adults and infection with HIV. There was troubling concern over some people living with HIV/AIDS (PLWA) who raped and infect girls with HIV/AIDS in a grotesque belief of a “virgin sex cure” prescribed by some witchdoctors. Since 1997, Section 123 of the Penal Code only provided protection against defilement (sexual abuse) of girls under 18 years of age. Section 123(1) states that: – “Any person who unlawfully has sexual intercourse with a girl under the age of eighteen years is guilty of an offense and is liable to suffer death.” Sub-section 2 of Section 123 of the Penal Code provides for attempts to defile a girl under the age of eighteen years. It states that: “Any person who attempts to have unlawful sexual intercourse with a girl under the age of eighteen years is guilty of an offense and is liable to imprisonment for eighteen years with or without corporal punishment”. This has and continues to be the law which no one has complained that it is unchristian or a human right violation. Many boys have been violated without legal protection leaving their evil oppressors to get away with no law enforcement protection. The current draft law, simply aims at providing equal protection of the boy child and other vulnerable persons, as currently exists for the girl child. The question for you is this; does the sexual abuse of a boy constitute a lesser crime than the rape of a girl?
The question of human rights and privacy:
Some people have asked whether this law raises questions of human rights infringement. Some have asked whether it infringes the right to privacy, for example, asking what legitimate interest the state has in what people do in the privacy of their bedrooms? But not all things done in private are free of negative consequences on the public. Most harmful behavior occurs in private: corruption, bribery, abortion, murder, rape, etc. Many laws prohibit these private practices. Practices like homosexuality and bisexuality are associated with serious, yet preventable public-health risks. The risk of HIV transmission in male homosexuality is for example about 10 times that of heterosexual sex, simply due to use of parts of the body for inappropriate functions. Other diseases and medical complications are also associated with these practices. Secondly, by its nature, behavior spreads in the population through experimentation, modeling and social affirmation. Increase in homosexual and bisexual practice could thus rapidly reverse Uganda’s success against HIV/AIDS. The state’s interest in public health requires that it takes action on these preventable health risks, not only through education, but also legal deterrents for those who misinform and mislead the public.
An organization recruiting and encouraging people to continue in homosexual practice lacks justification but one dealing in counseling and helping people with behavior management is justified. The clause requiring mandatory reporting of known offenses may therefore need an amendment to exempt disclosure made in counseling situations.
Our Historical Struggle:
When you-(Rick Warren) came to Uganda on Thursday, 27 March 2008, and expressed support to the Church of Uganda’s boycott of the pro-homosexual Church of England, you stated; “The Church of England is wrong, and I support the Church of Uganda”. You are further remembered to say, “homosexuality is not a natural way of life and thus (its) not a human right. We shall not tolerate this aspect at all”. (Gay Row-US Pastor supports country on boycott) He was indeed affirming Uganda’s long historical struggle against institutionalized homosexuality. This recent boycott was not the beginning of the struggle. In fact on June 3rd 1886, 26 Ugandan Christian converts to were martyred for their stand against a deviant king who had taken to the practice of sodomy. Their faith in Christ emboldened them to stand against homosexuality, resisting even up to death. Today we honor them, and June 3rd is a national holiday where millions of Ugandan believers converge to remember and renew their strength.(When faith, state and state inspired homosexuality clash). As you yourself have said, “..the Bible says evil has to be opposed. Evil has to be stopped. The Bible does not say negotiate with evil. It says stop it. Stop evil”. (12/2007) Since homosexuality is evil, you cannot possibly be against a law that seeks to stop it unless you have misunderstood it.
Clarification on the spirit of the Mandatory reporting clause 14:
Finally, sexual abuse of children takes place in institutions such as boarding schools, churches etc. Research by ACFODE, “The situational review of rape, sexual harassment and defilement 2005” in three districts found unusually high levels of coercive heterosexual/homosexual rape and harassment especially in single-sex schools. Unfortunately the school officials and some police officers, maintain a conspiracy of silence, ignoring the pleas of the children and victims who report these crimes. They value the reputation of the school or other institution above the welfare of the children and adults in their custody. This is the reason for section 14, of mandatory reporting of the offenses within 24 hours.
This reporting is similar to the mandatory reporting of all “unlawful sexual intercourse” in the state of California in Penal Code 11165 which includes, – rape (261), incest (285), sodomy (286), child molestation (647.6), and statutory rape (261.5). California Penal Code 11166; 11165.7 requires that Teachers, Social workers, District attorneys, Doctors, Psychologists, marriage and family counselors, clergy members and state or county public health employees are required by law to report “unlawful sexual intercourse” as defined by the state of California. If mandatory reporting has been deemed necessary in other in America on sexual offenses, Uganda could use the same measure in specified situations.
What has been our recommendation on the law?
At a special sitting of the Uganda Joint Christian Council a taskforce sat and reviewed the bill to make comments. We resolved to support the bill with some amendments which included the following:
a. We suggested reduction of the sentence to 20 years instead of the death penalty for the offense of aggravated homosexuality.
b. We suggested the inclusion of regulations in the law to govern provision of counseling and rehabilitation to persons experiencing homosexual temptations. The churches are willing to provide the necessary help for those seeking counseling and rehabilitation.
c. Even with the provision for counseling and rehabilitation in the law, homosexuality should remain a punishable offense to control its spread.
Warning of a widening shift.
We note with sadness the increasing levells of accepting of the evil of homosexuality. The ordination of Mary Glasspool a Lesbian as a bishop in Los Angeles without any condemnation from you, has increased the widening gap between the global south church in Africa and the global north church in Europe and America. In these increasingly dark days, we encourage you not to give into the temptation to water down what the bible says so as not to offend people. Jesus’s gospel is a stumbling block, and a rock of offense. Rick you are our friend, we have bought many of your books and have been blessed by them. Do not let the pressure of bloggers and popular media intimidate you into becoming a negotiator for homosexual paedophillia rights in Africa. As you yourself say about evil, – “the Bible says evil has to be opposed. Evil has to be stopped. The Bible does not say negotiate with evil. It says stop it. Stop evil.”(RW-12/2007) Since the bible says that the giant of homosexuality is an “abomination” or a great evil, you cannot achieve the peace plan without a purpose driven confrontation with evil.
Ugandan Clergy Demand for your apology within:
Please note that on Friday 11th December, more than 200 of Uganda’s top religious leaders met and supported the legislators in strengthening the law against homosexuality. (Church leaders back anti-gay bill.) The issue is, we all want the law on homosexuality, the only debate is on what penalties are appropriate.
Your letter has caused great distress and the pastors are demanding that you issue a formal apology for insulting the people of Africa by your very inapropriate bully use of your church and purpose driven pulpits to coerse us into the “evil” of Sodomy and Gaymorrah. This is expected within seven days from this date.
Sincerely Yours,
Martin Ssempa, Phd
Bishop David Kiganda
Pastor Ssozi Peter
Prof. Peter Claver Matovu
Seventh Day Church Representative.
PS: A video Youtube response will be sent as possible.
The taskforce represents
The National Fellowship of Born again Churches
The Seventh Adventists Church
The Uganda Joint Christian Council which also represents:
The Orthodox Church in Uganda.
The Roman Catholic Church in Uganda
The Islamiic Office of Social Welfare in Uganda
Note that the coalition met on the 17th in the office of the Minister of Ethics and Integrity, Nsaba Buturo. One has to assume that the recommendations for altering the bill will get a pretty solid hearing.
Regarding the defense of the bill, I addressed some of these claims yesterday. This letter addresses the actual bill a bit more directly than the Christianity Today version. Here, the Ugandan Task Force acknowledges that they are addressing private conduct of adults and not just child abuse. However, when they suggest restrictions on homosexuality will somehow address the HIV problem, they ignore the fact HIV in Uganda is primarily a heterosexual problem. In essence they ignore the religious arguments against the bill and attempt to make a weak public health argument.
Clearly, some alterations in the bill are forthcoming and these will be debated in 2010.
UPDATE: Martin Ssempa has reactivated his website and has the statement posted there as well
For crying out loud…has anyone of you had from the Ugandan populance on this issue of legislation? As a Ugandan (representing a constituency) we respect rule of law and so is it with the order..We find homosexuality appauling and this “pressure” unnerving.
Ssempa and the team should stick to the first draft or else the existing penal
code on defilement be changed too.
Another angle is we need our resourse which is our population, and homosexuality will not in any way help us achieve our economic ambitions.
Jonathan–
Currently, this blog site has dozens of topics related to this issue. Yours is not the first voice representing the ‘Ugandan populace’…and all voices are welcome.
Some will take comfort in knowing that you find the pressure ‘unnerving’ as that was it’s intent.
Even the conservatives among us find the suggested penalties too severe and some of the peripherally attached issues counterproductive. I have no problem with you finding homosexuality appalling as long as you are likewise appalled by all the other things that religion calls sin or abomination. “Lying lips” are an abomination. Why does homosexual behavior between consenting adults merit death or life imprisonment? What is your punishment for “lying lips”?
I firmly believe that singling out one behavior called ‘sin’ over others actually works counter to the intent of the Gospel…it drives the needy away rather than drawing them to Christ. I’m not sure, but I think that may be the primary reason behind many of the American conservative Christian voices who have joined in the campaign to impact the passage of this bill.
Mr. Jonathan Kisekka,
As a Ugandan myself let me inform you that homophobia is intellectually indefensible. It is the product of ignorance, and a skewed brand of religious fanaticism.
Ugandans are a by and large an illiterate and uneducated bunch. You know this very well. You and your compromised parliament have done little, if anything to change this. So appealing to the emotions of an uneducated populace as justification of discrimination on the basis on sexual orientation (a subject they do not understand) is not very impressive, I must say. They don’t know any better, and have been blindly incited to hate homosexuals by certain religious leaders and opportunistic politicians who have INTENTIONALLY conflated homosexuality with defilement of children. Sensible people know that this is ridiculous.
It is good that pressure is being applied to Uganda by the international community with regard to the bill. You will recall that the Southern States in America also had to be ‘pressured’ to free SLAVES and to DESEGREGATE their schools and public facilities. South Africa also had to endure sanctions while they still practiced apartheid. It is this pressure that brought liberty to blacks in all 3 cases. (Hmm..should those societies have been left to practice their ‘sovereignty’ and be left to keep slaves and/or segregate? You get the drift)
These examples clearly show us that where an injustice is being manifested in any way, applying pressure is not only justified – but is also morally obligatory.
Bravo USA and the international community..and the few Ugandans that are standing up to this most egregious bill and the homophobia driving it.
James–
I appreciate your input as a Ugandan in response to Jonathan.
My only reservation is about this phrase:
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While it may be fair to criticize the unenlightened population of Uganda for not understanding ‘sexual orientation’, I believe it’s fair to say that even the enlightened psychological community doesn’t fully understand it. The concept of sexual orientation was first presented in the last century primarily to describe the condition of being attracted sexually to one’s own gender. Natural course then applied orientation to the opposite gender and there isn’t much being clearly said about an orientation towards both genders. So, to pretend that others are woefully misinformed seems to imply that we are far more informed than they are. Beyond having labels and calling it a ‘condition’, though, I’m not sure that we know all that much.
Hi Eddy,
I admit that I’m not a professional psychotherapist or anything like that, but as I understand it, the major professional organisations (representing tens of thousands of certified psychologists, psychiatrists, sociologists, and pediatricians) engaged in peer reviewed studies on this subject have at least established that:
1. Sexual orientation is not a choice
2. Homosexuality is not a mental disorder
3. Forced reparative therapies have not been demonstrated to work, and in fact are known to be harmful to those subjected to it.
Do you dispute these conclusions? Or am I wrong in stating that this is the prevailing consensus?(I hope I have not opened a Pandora’s box here. I have heard this is a sticky subject on this blog)
If the above 3 points are true, then my point would still stand. Most Ugandans have NO IDEA of the kinds of studies that have been undertaken to investigate sexual orientation. You sound as if you are suggesting that psychologists are just as clueless on the issue as the Ugandan populace. If that is what you mean, I must say you’ve kind of lost me.
I’d appreciate some clarification from you.
Thanks.
Hi James,
Yes, it is a Pandora’s box but it’s one we’ve somehow learned to manage.
I’m in complete agreement with you that thousands of therapists agree on the notion they’ve termed ‘sexual orientation’. Many, however, believe that this was not in response so much to science as to lobbying pressure. We invented the concept of ‘the condition of being attracted to one’s own gender’ and then needed a name for that condition and ‘sexual orientation’ surely fits.
But consider that every child alive has a ‘lying orientation’. No one has to teach a child how to lie; it seems to come automatically. “Did you put those toys in the toilet?” “NO!” (A few classics on Funniest Home Videos come to mind. In one, a young girl is still covered in mom’s lipstick and makeup but when mom asks if she was using mommy’s make-up, a wide-eyed innocent ‘NO’ response.) What makes something a condition other than that we’ve felt the need to categorize it for some purpose?
Homosexuality is not a mental disorder. When using a psychological definition of ‘disorder’, truly, homosexuality is not a mental disorder. The tendency to want to tell a lie is not a disorder either. Because something is not a mental disorder does not automatically mean that it’s right, good or sanctioned by the creator.
I agree that forced reparative therapies have not proven particularly successful; i sumbit though that the jury is still out on the success of voluntary reparative therapy. There’s what we call a ‘sticky wicket’ though. If we go back to point one…about that ‘condition’ or ‘orientation’. The thinking regarding that concept seriously alters the definition of success. If you think of it as ‘a condition’, then success is a change in the condition…you once had strong same sex attractions; you now have strong opposite sex attractions. Some go so far as to say that even if a so called ‘ex-gay’ enters into a happy and sexually satisfying marriage, if they still have occasional homosexual attractions, they are not a success.
I’ll go back to the lying example (not comparing gays to liars…using lying because it’s probably the one universal sin of all humans). Now, if we thought of our attraction to telling untruths as a ‘lying orientation’, then success would be a strong desire for telling the truth and the absence of even considering lying again. I daresay that success rate would by similarly abysmal.
Regrettably, conservative Christians are responsible for adding to this confusion. Many, in their attempt to appear credible to the scientific community, adapted the scientific lingo not being particularly attentive to the concept of ‘a condition’…using the word ‘homosexuality’ instead of ‘homosexual behavior’ or ‘homosexual attractions’. This means that when they mixed in terminology that had Christian overtones, it muddied the message. The words ‘change’ and ‘freedom’ are the prime example. If you think in terms of a condition, both change and freedom mean a change of the condition and freedom from it. If you think in terms of behavior or attraction, change and freedom mean a difference in the way that you respond to the attractions and (hopefully) a definite change in behavior. Change and freedom, in that context, also applies to the frequency and potency of the attractions but does not mandate that they be totally eliminated.
According to the Bible, it is quite natural for humankind to be attracted to pleasure. According to the Bible and to basic human understanding, if you once found something pleasureable, you’re likely to be drawn towards it again. According to psychological understanding, stress, isolation, depression, and other emotional factors can increase a drive towards gratifying pleasure. Combining all those factors, I totally reject the notion that success is the total absence of homosexual attraction. I believe amnesia (forgettting that we once found pleasure or comfort in an area) IS a mental disorder.
One final word about ‘reparative therapy’. The term is similar to our word “Kleenex”…a word commonly substituted for tissue. Kleenex is actually a distinct brand name and there are many tissues out there, some better…some worse which some mistakenly call Kleenex. Or just as some parts of our country tend to call all colas “Coke”. (My head bobbed in awe the first time I heard someone say “I’ll have a Pepsi-coke”.) Anyway, there is a lot going on in the world of ‘ex-gays’ that does not fit the ‘reparative therapy’ model. ‘Reparative Therapy’ is actually the brand name of a very specific therapy model but it is certainly not the only model being employed. I do believe, though, that it’s the one that is most visible to the psychological community and is likely the chief proponent in appealing to that sense of condition as opposed to behavior and attraction.
Hi Eddie,
You said:
Actually I am non-religious myself, so what Christians believe God sanctions or prohibits is not something that is of much concern to me, or relevant to the point I was trying to make in my response to Mr. Kisekka.
James,
I hear you and must admit that I used Christianity in an attempt to be forthright because it is my base. However, even my non-Christian friends have a moral code that does not favor lying…and there are many non-Christians who do not feel that homosexuality (or homosexual behavior or attraction) is the intended purpose for a person.
At the very least, there are many who question the fully cognizant ability of an adolescent to take on an identity based on a sexual orientation recognition. In all of the confusion and floundering associated with adolescence, it must be conceivable that some will go through a homosexually attracted phase, even finding it pleasurable and gratifying to a high degree, but be in fact responding to unresolved emotional issues and to pleasure and/or orgasm.
Advocates of ‘homosexuality as a norm’ continually point out how much it actually has in common with heterosexuality. Wouldn’t those things in common also make it more likely that a person could be confused for a time? “Wow, I can’t begin to describe how it felt to be in the arms of someone who knew me, loved me, and accepted me for all that I am.” A powerful and gratifying experience. But, does the fact that it first happened with a same sex individual mean that it couldn’t happen with an opposite sex person? ‘ When we accept the label, the identity, the condition known as orientation, we mentally rule out that possibility.
I saw that a pastor in Uganda was promoting genocide on homosexuals. As if this world needs any more negativity and bigotry, we get another ignorant, narrow minded spotlight seeker that just doesn’t get it. I am a gay man. It took me a very long time to understand what I was feeling inside growing up, who I was and finally acceptance. These people think that we have a choice of what we are and that we influence, molest and manipulate others into becoming homosexuals and that we go after them when they are young. Are you friggin kidding me??? Talk about being ignorant and living in the dark ages. But then again, I’m at a lost as to why any homosexuals private life is headlines to others anyway. Maybe it’s time to get a few things straight (no pun intended)…
First, gay poeple are NOT pedifiles and we are not after your children nor are we here to “recruit” others to become homeosexual. If the Ugandan pastor would have done his research he would have found out that straight people make up nearly the full majority of the pedifiles that you find out on the streets molesting young children, not homosexuals. Second, homosexuality is NOT a choice… As if any of us would choose to be gay bashed, ridiculed, harrassased, beaten and even killed simply for loving someone that is the same sex. Third, as of 2110 there were 6,840,507,000 people in the world and of that nearly 7 billion, statistics say that homosexuals make up 15 percent of that number (at least the ones that admit to being homosexual, that is)… that means there are approximately 1,026,076,050 gay people in the world. 1.03 BILLION… that means that homosexuals out number, nearly every race on this planet. In fact, that is NOT an abomination that IS a race! Imagine if every one of those people turned on the world that has turned on them.
Since as far back as I can remember, all I have ever heard is that homosexuality is immoral and against God. Lets clarify that as well. First God did not write the bible, man did. God did not bellow down from above and dicate the bible to man. So first we need to be clear, the bible, even though it is one of the oldest books in the world, it is still a book and like any good book written by man, it is open to interpretation, unfortunately those that wrote it are not around to say exactly what they meant when they wrote the things we now question. But since a good portion of the world relys on that book as a tolken of inspiration, guidence and morality, then let me take from Genesis the most important parts from the very beginning… God created the world, and it was good. God created man in His own image and it was good. To first say that homosexuals are an abomination is an insult to God, he created 1.03 BILLION of us and according to the bible… it was good. Second God, unlike man, doesn’t discriminate. He isn’t a bigot, a racist or even a God that takes sides. He is a God that loves all and cares for all evenly, no matter what color you are, who you believe is the real God or even if you don’t believe in him, he still loves you the same. He will not take sides, he will not endorse your decision to blow up the trade center towers, he wont agree with you to shoot a homosexual, especially not in His name.
Every educated person in the world knows about what took place in Nazi Germany. Nearly 8,861,800 people were exterminated because one man didn’t like Jews (or anyone that didn’t fit into his idea of the perfect race for that matter, that included homosexuals as well). Do we know how many homosexuals were annihilated along with the jews? Does anyone care? Sadly, the answer for nearly half of the population of the world’s non-homosexuals is no. The number could be as staggering as the number of Jews killed by the Germans: 5,933,900. Does anyone care? According to the Ugandan pastor, he believes that all homosexuals should be killed, that means (applying the statistics) he endorses killing 1.03 billion homosexuals… How many more Hitlers does the world need before we all finally say enough is enough. When will the world open it’s eyes and see what God has laid out right in front of them? Life is a beautiful thing not to be squandered and wasted disagreeing, fighting and killing people. God is all about love not hate and nothing in the Bible or the Caran says otheriwse.
I hope that this will help people change their perspective on homosexuals or at the bare minimum, allow homosexuals to keep their private lives, just that… private. And to the Ugandan pastor, you have many problems in your own country much larger than homosexuality. As a pastor of a church your focus is supposed to be on love, peace and kindness to others. Somewhere along your journey, you have lost your way to richeousness.
John Cummings I salute you! Well said. I dunno about 15% of the world population being homosexual but regrdless on the percentage it is still a lot f people.