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		By: LJ Always		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LJ Always]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2022 05:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/10/stop-the-presses-mark-driscoll-needs-650000-more/#comment-113750&quot;&gt;Timothy R. Berman&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s a good question.  I am a Christian, and the truth is that many Christians DO help.  The church I financially support provides Thanksgiving meal baskets every year to low-income families, and also provides a free summer day camp to needy children in the area.  The church also provides homeless people with access to showers and medical/dental care.  The church also remotely supports teachers and school facilities in Africa.  It is a church with members of many different races who come together to worship Jesus Christ.  Unfortunately, many other churches have lost their way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/10/stop-the-presses-mark-driscoll-needs-650000-more/#comment-113750">Timothy R. Berman</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good question.  I am a Christian, and the truth is that many Christians DO help.  The church I financially support provides Thanksgiving meal baskets every year to low-income families, and also provides a free summer day camp to needy children in the area.  The church also provides homeless people with access to showers and medical/dental care.  The church also remotely supports teachers and school facilities in Africa.  It is a church with members of many different races who come together to worship Jesus Christ.  Unfortunately, many other churches have lost their way.</p>
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		By: LJ Always		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LJ Always]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2022 05:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/10/stop-the-presses-mark-driscoll-needs-650000-more/#comment-113687&quot;&gt;Think about it!&lt;/a&gt;.

I am not a church; I am just one Christian.  But since believing in Jesus Christ and asking Him to be my savior, I have endeavored to devote my life to help others and spread the gospel of Christ. I am not perfect and I have a continual battle with sin, but I have given away a lot of my own resources to help people.   I have also found many Christian churches to be inward-focused and not care about the outside community. 
These churches are also overly-focused on getting money from the attendees/church members.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/10/stop-the-presses-mark-driscoll-needs-650000-more/#comment-113687">Think about it!</a>.</p>
<p>I am not a church; I am just one Christian.  But since believing in Jesus Christ and asking Him to be my savior, I have endeavored to devote my life to help others and spread the gospel of Christ. I am not perfect and I have a continual battle with sin, but I have given away a lot of my own resources to help people.   I have also found many Christian churches to be inward-focused and not care about the outside community.<br />
These churches are also overly-focused on getting money from the attendees/church members.</p>
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		By: Timothy R. Berman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy R. Berman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2022 23:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am curious to know how many people who are in need and struggling this past year or two and have gone to the Church for help to only be told &quot;Go and be filled the Lord will Provide&quot; with a jolly good ole pat on the back and a shiny peerly white toothy grinned smile. While Good ole preacher man is wailing and prayin and preachin up a storm on how the church needs more money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious to know how many people who are in need and struggling this past year or two and have gone to the Church for help to only be told &#8220;Go and be filled the Lord will Provide&#8221; with a jolly good ole pat on the back and a shiny peerly white toothy grinned smile. While Good ole preacher man is wailing and prayin and preachin up a storm on how the church needs more money.</p>
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		By: AHH		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/10/stop-the-presses-mark-driscoll-needs-650000-more/#comment-113724</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AHH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2022 15:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/10/stop-the-presses-mark-driscoll-needs-650000-more/#comment-113720&quot;&gt;abb3w&lt;/a&gt;.

Another thing I have noticed in the past couple of months is that Patheos has started taking advertising from Gab, a social network that serves white supremacists and anti-Semites.  With slogans in the ads like &quot;Make America one nation under God again&quot; and &quot;Kick God out of social media? Not here&quot;.

Gab ads show up for me maybe 50% of the time on the 2 blogs under Patheos Evangelical that I still read; I don&#039;t know if other parts of Patheos are also infected.
While I don&#039;t know much about how ad networks function, the fact that these ads continue to show up after many times closing them and clicking &quot;Stop seeing this ad&quot; suggests that they don&#039;t have much in the way of less sleazy advertisers to show me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/10/stop-the-presses-mark-driscoll-needs-650000-more/#comment-113720">abb3w</a>.</p>
<p>Another thing I have noticed in the past couple of months is that Patheos has started taking advertising from Gab, a social network that serves white supremacists and anti-Semites.  With slogans in the ads like &#8220;Make America one nation under God again&#8221; and &#8220;Kick God out of social media? Not here&#8221;.</p>
<p>Gab ads show up for me maybe 50% of the time on the 2 blogs under Patheos Evangelical that I still read; I don&#8217;t know if other parts of Patheos are also infected.<br />
While I don&#8217;t know much about how ad networks function, the fact that these ads continue to show up after many times closing them and clicking &#8220;Stop seeing this ad&#8221; suggests that they don&#8217;t have much in the way of less sleazy advertisers to show me.</p>
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		By: abb3w		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/10/stop-the-presses-mark-driscoll-needs-650000-more/#comment-113721&quot;&gt;ken&lt;/a&gt;.

A precise nuance that I didn&#039;t catch, but that seems worth noting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/10/stop-the-presses-mark-driscoll-needs-650000-more/#comment-113721">ken</a>.</p>
<p>A precise nuance that I didn&#8217;t catch, but that seems worth noting.</p>
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		By: Warren Throckmorton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren Throckmorton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2022 19:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/10/stop-the-presses-mark-driscoll-needs-650000-more/#comment-113720&quot;&gt;abb3w&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks. I saw that and may write a post about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/10/stop-the-presses-mark-driscoll-needs-650000-more/#comment-113720">abb3w</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks. I saw that and may write a post about it.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2022 18:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/10/stop-the-presses-mark-driscoll-needs-650000-more/#comment-113720&quot;&gt;abb3w&lt;/a&gt;.

to clarify Warren didn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;claim&lt;/em&gt; Driscoll was responsible for his boot from patheos, just that it was possible Driscoll contributed to it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/10/stop-the-presses-mark-driscoll-needs-650000-more/#comment-113720">abb3w</a>.</p>
<p>to clarify Warren didn&#8217;t <em>claim</em> Driscoll was responsible for his boot from patheos, just that it was possible Driscoll contributed to it.</p>
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		By: abb3w		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Slight threadjack, for which I apologize. However, this piece seemed  the nearest one at least tangentially related.


You indicated in earlier pieces that Driscoll was responsible for your eviction from the evangelical channel and Patheos, and speculated about the long term future of its ability to &quot;host the conversation of the faith&quot;. Recent news reports (and final pieces on several blogs) suggest further rise in its disability, with the (nominally amiable) exodus of the majority of the Nonreligious channel bloggers over Patheos changing editorial policies to restrict content in ways that would have particularly impacted that channel.


Having seen mention of your eviction in a discussion of wider background, I thought I&#039;d leave a comment on your current blog to draw this recent development to your attention, on the off chance you want to make a blog post to share your reflections on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slight threadjack, for which I apologize. However, this piece seemed  the nearest one at least tangentially related.</p>
<p>You indicated in earlier pieces that Driscoll was responsible for your eviction from the evangelical channel and Patheos, and speculated about the long term future of its ability to &#8220;host the conversation of the faith&#8221;. Recent news reports (and final pieces on several blogs) suggest further rise in its disability, with the (nominally amiable) exodus of the majority of the Nonreligious channel bloggers over Patheos changing editorial policies to restrict content in ways that would have particularly impacted that channel.</p>
<p>Having seen mention of your eviction in a discussion of wider background, I thought I&#8217;d leave a comment on your current blog to draw this recent development to your attention, on the off chance you want to make a blog post to share your reflections on it.</p>
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		By: Kim Thompson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kim Thompson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2022 09:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/10/stop-the-presses-mark-driscoll-needs-650000-more/#comment-113662&quot;&gt;Warren Throckmorton&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes. He is one of the main guys that sings at Trinity. Can&#039;t remember his name. Sad to see he is still there, he is a great guy who gave his testimony last year. Just another guy who&#039;s been sucked into Driscoll&#039;s lair..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/10/stop-the-presses-mark-driscoll-needs-650000-more/#comment-113662">Warren Throckmorton</a>.</p>
<p>Yes. He is one of the main guys that sings at Trinity. Can&#8217;t remember his name. Sad to see he is still there, he is a great guy who gave his testimony last year. Just another guy who&#8217;s been sucked into Driscoll&#8217;s lair..</p>
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		By: Think about it!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Think about it!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2022 17:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/10/stop-the-presses-mark-driscoll-needs-650000-more/#comment-113650&quot;&gt;Rob Grayson&lt;/a&gt;.

Where did MD come from, who put him in play/position; groomed him and funded ALL that and did he ever live James 1:27 and Matthew 25:31-end?  Can the people who sat in MD&#039;s Business, did they truly learn anything that could apply in life and get the Bible from cover to cover and how many times other than horrific spiritual abuse? Where did ALL the money go?  Was he even Christian, Acts 16:31; those questions, would apply to all Ministries.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/10/stop-the-presses-mark-driscoll-needs-650000-more/#comment-113650">Rob Grayson</a>.</p>
<p>Where did MD come from, who put him in play/position; groomed him and funded ALL that and did he ever live James 1:27 and Matthew 25:31-end?  Can the people who sat in MD&#8217;s Business, did they truly learn anything that could apply in life and get the Bible from cover to cover and how many times other than horrific spiritual abuse? Where did ALL the money go?  Was he even Christian, Acts 16:31; those questions, would apply to all Ministries.</p>
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