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	Comments on: After a Year of Trials, Mark Driscoll Needs $200,000 to Finish Strong!	</title>
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		By: Priscilla Frye		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Priscilla Frye]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2022 19:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/07/after-a-year-of-trials-mark-driscoll-needs-200000-to-finish-strong/#comment-113631&quot;&gt;OrthoAnabaptist&lt;/a&gt;.

This is a late comment, but seeing the picture of his pool, it occurs to me that getting run out of gray, cloudy Seattle might have been the best thing that ever happened to him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/07/after-a-year-of-trials-mark-driscoll-needs-200000-to-finish-strong/#comment-113631">OrthoAnabaptist</a>.</p>
<p>This is a late comment, but seeing the picture of his pool, it occurs to me that getting run out of gray, cloudy Seattle might have been the best thing that ever happened to him.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2022 12:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Apparently, Driscoll is just phoning it in (from poolside) for this money.  He had no church service on xmas or  the sunday the day after xmas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, Driscoll is just phoning it in (from poolside) for this money.  He had no church service on xmas or  the sunday the day after xmas.</p>
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		By: Jeremy Nakasone		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy Nakasone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2021 23:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/07/after-a-year-of-trials-mark-driscoll-needs-200000-to-finish-strong/#comment-113695&quot;&gt;Think about it!&lt;/a&gt;.

agreed.  And, fruit and successes were probably confused for one another.  Just b/c something is &quot;successful&quot; by a human metric were they actually fruitful in the biblical sense?   If your church has 10,000s of people but they&#039;re all just pawns in the big game of MD&#039;s Ego, then it&#039;s not fruit even if it&#039;s successful in a numerical sense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/07/after-a-year-of-trials-mark-driscoll-needs-200000-to-finish-strong/#comment-113695">Think about it!</a>.</p>
<p>agreed.  And, fruit and successes were probably confused for one another.  Just b/c something is &#8220;successful&#8221; by a human metric were they actually fruitful in the biblical sense?   If your church has 10,000s of people but they&#8217;re all just pawns in the big game of MD&#8217;s Ego, then it&#8217;s not fruit even if it&#8217;s successful in a numerical sense.</p>
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		By: Think about it!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Think about it!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2021 22:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/07/after-a-year-of-trials-mark-driscoll-needs-200000-to-finish-strong/#comment-113693&quot;&gt;Jeremy Nakasone&lt;/a&gt;.

Somewhere read his horrific abusive tirade to or on his wife it wasn&#039;t good at all.  Shows MD has NO love in heart, obviously doesn&#039;t truly understand First Corinthians 13:  just look at the fruit or lack of what did to MHC and all the people that will take a LIFETIME to recover.  How can you teach God&#039;s LOVE, Grace and Mercy when your NOT healed up yourself; which is much of our false church leaders!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/07/after-a-year-of-trials-mark-driscoll-needs-200000-to-finish-strong/#comment-113693">Jeremy Nakasone</a>.</p>
<p>Somewhere read his horrific abusive tirade to or on his wife it wasn&#8217;t good at all.  Shows MD has NO love in heart, obviously doesn&#8217;t truly understand First Corinthians 13:  just look at the fruit or lack of what did to MHC and all the people that will take a LIFETIME to recover.  How can you teach God&#8217;s LOVE, Grace and Mercy when your NOT healed up yourself; which is much of our false church leaders!</p>
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		By: Jeremy Nakasone		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy Nakasone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2021 22:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/07/after-a-year-of-trials-mark-driscoll-needs-200000-to-finish-strong/#comment-113690&quot;&gt;Think about it!&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve thought that for a while now.  If he is so abusive to people who work for him how is his home life not also in shambles?  Is he a good husband &#038; father or is he abusive to them too?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/07/after-a-year-of-trials-mark-driscoll-needs-200000-to-finish-strong/#comment-113690">Think about it!</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve thought that for a while now.  If he is so abusive to people who work for him how is his home life not also in shambles?  Is he a good husband &amp; father or is he abusive to them too?</p>
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		By: Think about it!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Think about it!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2021 21:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/07/after-a-year-of-trials-mark-driscoll-needs-200000-to-finish-strong/#comment-113649&quot;&gt;Jeremy Nakasone&lt;/a&gt;.

Does MD truly have any REAL relationships with Family and Friends that aren&#039;t rooted in fear and abuse?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/07/after-a-year-of-trials-mark-driscoll-needs-200000-to-finish-strong/#comment-113649">Jeremy Nakasone</a>.</p>
<p>Does MD truly have any REAL relationships with Family and Friends that aren&#8217;t rooted in fear and abuse?</p>
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		By: Jeremy Nakasone		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy Nakasone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2021 01:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[he&#039;s lounging in front of a fancy pool in the sun but he&#039;s like &quot;give me money&quot; yeah, that&#039;ll go over well!  He&#039;s just espousing the prosperity theology of American evangelicalism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he&#8217;s lounging in front of a fancy pool in the sun but he&#8217;s like &#8220;give me money&#8221; yeah, that&#8217;ll go over well!  He&#8217;s just espousing the prosperity theology of American evangelicalism.</p>
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		By: Mr Jesperson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr Jesperson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2021 01:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/07/after-a-year-of-trials-mark-driscoll-needs-200000-to-finish-strong/#comment-113623&quot;&gt;Linn&lt;/a&gt;.

A while back I researched this Mega Organization and found troubling signs in reviews from employees at their headquarters.  Lots of concerns about the org turning into a kind of scam, AKA Gospel for Asia.  At this point I consider giving any money to a big non-profit to be simply stupid.  Con men are out there and they are fishing for this kind of thing.  As always, donors beware of what you cannot clearly see for yourself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/07/after-a-year-of-trials-mark-driscoll-needs-200000-to-finish-strong/#comment-113623">Linn</a>.</p>
<p>A while back I researched this Mega Organization and found troubling signs in reviews from employees at their headquarters.  Lots of concerns about the org turning into a kind of scam, AKA Gospel for Asia.  At this point I consider giving any money to a big non-profit to be simply stupid.  Con men are out there and they are fishing for this kind of thing.  As always, donors beware of what you cannot clearly see for yourself.</p>
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		By: David Stafford		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Stafford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2021 03:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/07/after-a-year-of-trials-mark-driscoll-needs-200000-to-finish-strong/#comment-113639&quot;&gt;AHH&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, I just finished her book. I enjoyed it but I wish she had dealt with class issues a bit more. The displacement of working class men as breadwinners is an ongoing wound that hasn&#039;t received the attention it deserves. I think it&#039;s central to this rift.
BTW, I also read Jessica Johnson&#039;s book about Mars Hill, &quot;Biblical Porn.&quot; A tough slog if you&#039;re not an academic and I&#039;m not. It&#039;s unfortunate that Ms Johnson lacked an editor to make her book more accessible to a wider audience because she does have a good story to tell. It&#039;s just buried in de-constructionist jargon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/07/after-a-year-of-trials-mark-driscoll-needs-200000-to-finish-strong/#comment-113639">AHH</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, I just finished her book. I enjoyed it but I wish she had dealt with class issues a bit more. The displacement of working class men as breadwinners is an ongoing wound that hasn&#8217;t received the attention it deserves. I think it&#8217;s central to this rift.<br />
BTW, I also read Jessica Johnson&#8217;s book about Mars Hill, &#8220;Biblical Porn.&#8221; A tough slog if you&#8217;re not an academic and I&#8217;m not. It&#8217;s unfortunate that Ms Johnson lacked an editor to make her book more accessible to a wider audience because she does have a good story to tell. It&#8217;s just buried in de-constructionist jargon.</p>
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		By: AHH		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AHH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2021 02:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/07/after-a-year-of-trials-mark-driscoll-needs-200000-to-finish-strong/#comment-113636&quot;&gt;David Stafford&lt;/a&gt;.

His views of the roles of men and women are pretty well in line with much (but by no means all) of US Evangelical culture.  The recent excellent but depressing book &lt;i&gt;Jesus and John Wayne&lt;/i&gt; traces that influential movement within evangelicalism (and some of the way it seeps into American culture and politics).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/12/07/after-a-year-of-trials-mark-driscoll-needs-200000-to-finish-strong/#comment-113636">David Stafford</a>.</p>
<p>His views of the roles of men and women are pretty well in line with much (but by no means all) of US Evangelical culture.  The recent excellent but depressing book <i>Jesus and John Wayne</i> traces that influential movement within evangelicalism (and some of the way it seeps into American culture and politics).</p>
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