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	Comments on: David Barton in the News: Remember His Earned Doctorate and Division One Basketball Stardom?	</title>
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		By: jimlefferts		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2021 15:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[warren...please ! Barton/Beck need to be seriously called out on this latest grift! We must call them out in a much more serious manner to demonstrate the the rampant perfidy of their claims. It has become so outrageous in the blatant level of their scheming and lying.  We need no references now to their past falsehoods, as awful as they may have been, those are junior league compared to what they promote today. On so many levels, what they proclaim today is horrific. Strong voices are needed to rebuke them. Are you not so offended than to make more of this than you have?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>warren&#8230;please ! Barton/Beck need to be seriously called out on this latest grift! We must call them out in a much more serious manner to demonstrate the the rampant perfidy of their claims. It has become so outrageous in the blatant level of their scheming and lying.  We need no references now to their past falsehoods, as awful as they may have been, those are junior league compared to what they promote today. On so many levels, what they proclaim today is horrific. Strong voices are needed to rebuke them. Are you not so offended than to make more of this than you have?</p>
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		By: Daniel 'n' Terry Unruh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel 'n' Terry Unruh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2021 19:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/08/27/david-barton-in-the-news-remember-his-earned-doctorate-and-his-division-one-basketball-stardom/#comment-113133&quot;&gt;Warren Throckmorton&lt;/a&gt;.

Now now Warren  ... &quot;we&quot; is just an over-exuberant fan identifying closely with his heroes on the court.  I&#039;m sure that must be the explanation for the repeated misleading use of that little word.  What other explanation could there be?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/08/27/david-barton-in-the-news-remember-his-earned-doctorate-and-his-division-one-basketball-stardom/#comment-113133">Warren Throckmorton</a>.</p>
<p>Now now Warren  &#8230; &#8220;we&#8221; is just an over-exuberant fan identifying closely with his heroes on the court.  I&#8217;m sure that must be the explanation for the repeated misleading use of that little word.  What other explanation could there be?</p>
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		By: Mr Jesperson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2021 19:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/08/27/david-barton-in-the-news-remember-his-earned-doctorate-and-his-division-one-basketball-stardom/#comment-113141&quot;&gt;otrotierra&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for that and interesting link.  This lady is a pastor and a pastor&#039;s wife and a child of pastors in El Salvador.  She rich, at least enough to be able to get a visa to visit the U.S which makes me wonder if her family church business is of the Faith Movement.  She has had mental health issues and is still under treatment for them.  I suspect that it is currently not going well in that department.  Healthy people know that you talk out differences and you do not try to kick people out without first trying to resolve them and having proof that extreme measures are really necessary.  In my case even using the example of what if someone did to you what you just did to me, &quot;how would you feel&quot; was simply ignored.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/08/27/david-barton-in-the-news-remember-his-earned-doctorate-and-his-division-one-basketball-stardom/#comment-113141">otrotierra</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for that and interesting link.  This lady is a pastor and a pastor&#8217;s wife and a child of pastors in El Salvador.  She rich, at least enough to be able to get a visa to visit the U.S which makes me wonder if her family church business is of the Faith Movement.  She has had mental health issues and is still under treatment for them.  I suspect that it is currently not going well in that department.  Healthy people know that you talk out differences and you do not try to kick people out without first trying to resolve them and having proof that extreme measures are really necessary.  In my case even using the example of what if someone did to you what you just did to me, &#8220;how would you feel&#8221; was simply ignored.</p>
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		By: otrotierra		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2021 18:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/08/27/david-barton-in-the-news-remember-his-earned-doctorate-and-his-division-one-basketball-stardom/#comment-113140&quot;&gt;Mr Jesperson&lt;/a&gt;.

Looks like she&#039;s Spiritual Bypassing:

&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_bypass&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/08/27/david-barton-in-the-news-remember-his-earned-doctorate-and-his-division-one-basketball-stardom/#comment-113140">Mr Jesperson</a>.</p>
<p>Looks like she&#8217;s Spiritual Bypassing:</p>
<p><a href="#" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_bypass</a></p>
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		By: nathankc		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2021 16:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[lemme guess...they are raising money to go help, right? Fine print probably says &quot;going to a general fund that can be used at the discreation of the organization&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lemme guess&#8230;they are raising money to go help, right? Fine print probably says &#8220;going to a general fund that can be used at the discreation of the organization&#8221;</p>
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		By: Mr Jesperson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2021 16:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/08/27/david-barton-in-the-news-remember-his-earned-doctorate-and-his-division-one-basketball-stardom/#comment-113132&quot;&gt;Mr Jesperson&lt;/a&gt;.

An update if anyone cares.  I emailed the head woman with a response to her ultimatum asking her if telling people to leave who ask questions and then locking them out of the Zoom meeting was a godly response in line with &quot;Love is patient. etc.&quot;  I have a response from her which is textbook for what we see over and over again to people who think they are above everyone else and no mere peon can hold them accountable for anything.  So here it is unedited.  Feel free to comment any way you like:

&quot;I have answers for everything you have stated here but I see no point in going back and forth in arguments. Because everything I tell you seems to trigger more arguments from your part. 

Your response sounds like this is everybody&#039;s fault but you are failing to admit where your behaviors have irrespected the groups&#039;s conscience. 

And let me emphasize that- we are not against you- it&#039;s some of your behaviors in the group that need to stop.

I know you are a man of God so I am hoping the Holy Spirit will convict you and so you will be able to admit, confess, and commit to what we are asking you.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/08/27/david-barton-in-the-news-remember-his-earned-doctorate-and-his-division-one-basketball-stardom/#comment-113132">Mr Jesperson</a>.</p>
<p>An update if anyone cares.  I emailed the head woman with a response to her ultimatum asking her if telling people to leave who ask questions and then locking them out of the Zoom meeting was a godly response in line with &#8220;Love is patient. etc.&#8221;  I have a response from her which is textbook for what we see over and over again to people who think they are above everyone else and no mere peon can hold them accountable for anything.  So here it is unedited.  Feel free to comment any way you like:</p>
<p>&#8220;I have answers for everything you have stated here but I see no point in going back and forth in arguments. Because everything I tell you seems to trigger more arguments from your part. </p>
<p>Your response sounds like this is everybody&#8217;s fault but you are failing to admit where your behaviors have irrespected the groups&#8217;s conscience. </p>
<p>And let me emphasize that- we are not against you- it&#8217;s some of your behaviors in the group that need to stop.</p>
<p>I know you are a man of God so I am hoping the Holy Spirit will convict you and so you will be able to admit, confess, and commit to what we are asking you.&#8221;</p>
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		By: mirele		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mirele]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2021 15:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/08/27/david-barton-in-the-news-remember-his-earned-doctorate-and-his-division-one-basketball-stardom/#comment-113136&quot;&gt;ken&lt;/a&gt;.

Speaking of OUR, the vice.com website has done some excellent journalism on the organization and Tim Ballard. It&#039;s entirely possible he has some criminal legal issues.

Here also is an article by a self-described Mormon &quot;mommy blogger&quot; regarding her experience with Ballard and OUR. It&#039;s unpleasant reading. 

https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/05/sex-trafficking-raid-operation-underground-railroad.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/08/27/david-barton-in-the-news-remember-his-earned-doctorate-and-his-division-one-basketball-stardom/#comment-113136">ken</a>.</p>
<p>Speaking of OUR, the vice.com website has done some excellent journalism on the organization and Tim Ballard. It&#8217;s entirely possible he has some criminal legal issues.</p>
<p>Here also is an article by a self-described Mormon &#8220;mommy blogger&#8221; regarding her experience with Ballard and OUR. It&#8217;s unpleasant reading. </p>
<p><a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/05/sex-trafficking-raid-operation-underground-railroad.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/05/sex-trafficking-raid-operation-underground-railroad.html</a></p>
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		By: otrotierra		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[otrotierra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2021 01:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/08/27/david-barton-in-the-news-remember-his-earned-doctorate-and-his-division-one-basketball-stardom/#comment-113137&quot;&gt;ken&lt;/a&gt;.

Of course Barton deceptively implied it, as we can all plainly see. Bearing False Witness is Barton&#039;s predictable, self-serving theology in action. Howard&#039;s attempt to compare Dr. Throckmorton to Barton is shameful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/08/27/david-barton-in-the-news-remember-his-earned-doctorate-and-his-division-one-basketball-stardom/#comment-113137">ken</a>.</p>
<p>Of course Barton deceptively implied it, as we can all plainly see. Bearing False Witness is Barton&#8217;s predictable, self-serving theology in action. Howard&#8217;s attempt to compare Dr. Throckmorton to Barton is shameful.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2021 16:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/08/27/david-barton-in-the-news-remember-his-earned-doctorate-and-his-division-one-basketball-stardom/#comment-113129&quot;&gt;Howard Miller&lt;/a&gt;.

While Barton may have never said &quot;I was on the basketball team&quot; explicitly, the text certainly &lt;em&gt;IMPLIES&lt;/em&gt; he is claiming he was on the basketball team.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/08/27/david-barton-in-the-news-remember-his-earned-doctorate-and-his-division-one-basketball-stardom/#comment-113129">Howard Miller</a>.</p>
<p>While Barton may have never said &#8220;I was on the basketball team&#8221; explicitly, the text certainly <em>IMPLIES</em> he is claiming he was on the basketball team.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2021 12:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/08/27/david-barton-in-the-news-remember-his-earned-doctorate-and-his-division-one-basketball-stardom/#comment-113130&quot;&gt;Ellie is still here in 2021&lt;/a&gt;.

I remember back in Beck&#039;s FoxNews days, a co-worker commented Beck would always say to people &quot;check it yourself&quot;.   When I asked the co-worker if he had ever &quot;checked it himself&quot; I&#039;m pretty sure you can guess the answer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/08/27/david-barton-in-the-news-remember-his-earned-doctorate-and-his-division-one-basketball-stardom/#comment-113130">Ellie is still here in 2021</a>.</p>
<p>I remember back in Beck&#8217;s FoxNews days, a co-worker commented Beck would always say to people &#8220;check it yourself&#8221;.   When I asked the co-worker if he had ever &#8220;checked it himself&#8221; I&#8217;m pretty sure you can guess the answer.</p>
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