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	Comments on: Seven Years Ago, Paul Tripp Resigned from the Board of Advisors and Accountability of Mars Hill Church	</title>
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		By: David Stafford		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 16:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not an evangelical, never heard of Mars Hill before Monday but sped through the entire CT podcast in two days because, as OrthoAnabaptist says, this story has so many facets to it. From a non-religious perspective this seems like a tale of thwarted ambition in the sense that had Mr. Driscoll been born in a different neighborhood of Seattle he might have used his prodigious talents to some other end. (Yes, I know...crassly materialistic of me). As it was he used his charisma to vault past the gatekeepers. In a rigidly stratified society that&#039;s how the exceptional emerge from below: sheer charisma. It didn&#039;t hurt that the gatekeepers were a group of unctuous old white men itching to be taken down by a young punk. The problem is: you can&#039;t be James Dean forever. Angry young men must go through the wilderness of middle age before they emerge as angry old men. Them&#039;s the rules.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not an evangelical, never heard of Mars Hill before Monday but sped through the entire CT podcast in two days because, as OrthoAnabaptist says, this story has so many facets to it. From a non-religious perspective this seems like a tale of thwarted ambition in the sense that had Mr. Driscoll been born in a different neighborhood of Seattle he might have used his prodigious talents to some other end. (Yes, I know&#8230;crassly materialistic of me). As it was he used his charisma to vault past the gatekeepers. In a rigidly stratified society that&#8217;s how the exceptional emerge from below: sheer charisma. It didn&#8217;t hurt that the gatekeepers were a group of unctuous old white men itching to be taken down by a young punk. The problem is: you can&#8217;t be James Dean forever. Angry young men must go through the wilderness of middle age before they emerge as angry old men. Them&#8217;s the rules.</p>
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		By: OrthoAnabaptist		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OrthoAnabaptist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 12:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been gobbling up the CT podcast... maybe it&#039;s a perverse voyeurism, I don&#039;t know... but the story is compelling and one big reason is; it speaks so poignantly to the times we live in and have come through... the show&#039;s header/opening has this person saying something about &quot;people wanting a narcissist as their pastor&quot;(approx.) I think there&#039;s a direct connection with that spirit of the 21st century white evangelical age and their falling for trump...and others like him.  And so even though the docu-podcast is about Mark D, it&#039;s really more about the pathologies, the corruptions, the misguided loves, the twisted theology of many american evangelicals...  
And for me, an in-body-but-not-spirit attendee of a church which fits squarely in the white, conservative, suburban/rural paradigm that gravitates towards people like Mark D - this story holds a mirror up to me (particularly my younger self) We/I do tend to fall for funny, charismatic, confident, charming speakers... We like being associated with a guy who&#039;s made a name for himself, whether in a big national way or smaller local way (my current pastor... is a minor celebrity in the christian entertainment world...!!! and I was not there when he was chosen, but I&#039;ve gotten the distinct feeling that one of the reasons he was chosen WAS because of his prior fame!) I&#039;ll grant him this; He doesn&#039;t seem as crass or arrogant as MD, but listening to this has caused some warning bells to start ringing...

Where this all ends, I don&#039;t know, but I hope more people gain wisdom from this and stop falling for these guys... and start changing their inner hankerings and begin to look for something better in their leaders/pastors... (and stop blaming the Church&#039;s ills on a supposed nefarious cabal of academics and leftists and CRTism...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been gobbling up the CT podcast&#8230; maybe it&#8217;s a perverse voyeurism, I don&#8217;t know&#8230; but the story is compelling and one big reason is; it speaks so poignantly to the times we live in and have come through&#8230; the show&#8217;s header/opening has this person saying something about &#8220;people wanting a narcissist as their pastor&#8221;(approx.) I think there&#8217;s a direct connection with that spirit of the 21st century white evangelical age and their falling for trump&#8230;and others like him.  And so even though the docu-podcast is about Mark D, it&#8217;s really more about the pathologies, the corruptions, the misguided loves, the twisted theology of many american evangelicals&#8230;<br />
And for me, an in-body-but-not-spirit attendee of a church which fits squarely in the white, conservative, suburban/rural paradigm that gravitates towards people like Mark D &#8211; this story holds a mirror up to me (particularly my younger self) We/I do tend to fall for funny, charismatic, confident, charming speakers&#8230; We like being associated with a guy who&#8217;s made a name for himself, whether in a big national way or smaller local way (my current pastor&#8230; is a minor celebrity in the christian entertainment world&#8230;!!! and I was not there when he was chosen, but I&#8217;ve gotten the distinct feeling that one of the reasons he was chosen WAS because of his prior fame!) I&#8217;ll grant him this; He doesn&#8217;t seem as crass or arrogant as MD, but listening to this has caused some warning bells to start ringing&#8230;</p>
<p>Where this all ends, I don&#8217;t know, but I hope more people gain wisdom from this and stop falling for these guys&#8230; and start changing their inner hankerings and begin to look for something better in their leaders/pastors&#8230; (and stop blaming the Church&#8217;s ills on a supposed nefarious cabal of academics and leftists and CRTism&#8230;)</p>
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		By: Mr Jesperson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr Jesperson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2021 16:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On other important news: here comes the lawsuit against RZIM, that other scam from India.  Warren has covered some of that scandal and now it is headed back to court.  I suspect they will settle out of court just like GFA did.  https://julieroys.com/lawsuit-rzim-cover-up-abuse-donors/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On other important news: here comes the lawsuit against RZIM, that other scam from India.  Warren has covered some of that scandal and now it is headed back to court.  I suspect they will settle out of court just like GFA did.  <a href="https://julieroys.com/lawsuit-rzim-cover-up-abuse-donors/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://julieroys.com/lawsuit-rzim-cover-up-abuse-donors/</a></p>
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		By: DoctorDJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DoctorDJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2021 18:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FYI, Episode 6 (&quot;The Brand&quot;) of &lt;i&gt;The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill&lt;/i&gt; is up at Christianity Today.












https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/podcasts/rise-and-fall-of-mars-hill/rise-fall-mars-hill-podcast-mark-driscoll-brand.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, Episode 6 (&#8220;The Brand&#8221;) of <i>The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill</i> is up at Christianity Today.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/podcasts/rise-and-fall-of-mars-hill/rise-fall-mars-hill-podcast-mark-driscoll-brand.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/podcasts/rise-and-fall-of-mars-hill/rise-fall-mars-hill-podcast-mark-driscoll-brand.html</a></p>
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		By: otrotierra		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/07/30/seven-years-ago-paul-tripp-resigned-from-the-board-of-advisors-and-accountability-of-mars-hill-church/#comment-112826</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[otrotierra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2021 13:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Dr. Throckmorton for further documenting the larger narrative revealing Mark Driscoll&#039;s abusive behavior.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Dr. Throckmorton for further documenting the larger narrative revealing Mark Driscoll&#8217;s abusive behavior.</p>
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