Comments on: Does Anything Sound Familiar Here?

By: Headless Unicorn Guy

Headless Unicorn Guy — Thu, 11 Nov 2021 00:21:01 +0000

In reply to mirele.

“Just like Scientology, Except CHRISTIAN(TM)!”

You know what broke Scientology’s cultivated essence of fear?
South Park.
Where’s the Parker & Stone for Deep Throat Driscoll?

By: Headless Unicorn Guy

Headless Unicorn Guy — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 18:52:51 +0000

Tip:

When a church can be described as “Just Like Scientology, Except CHRISTIAN(TM)!” that is NOT a good sign.

By: Mike Laughlin

Mike Laughlin — Fri, 06 Aug 2021 21:01:46 +0000

On the Roy’s Report there is a live interview with Chad Freese and another man both of which had resigned from church security at Mark Driscoll’s Trinity church in Scottsdale. Among a number of issues that raised alarms for them was a man and wife who reported what they believed to be a red flag between children and a church staff person. The couple described it as “grooming” the children. Its not to say that abuse was being done. Mark later said there was no abuse.
But what is alarming about the incident is what happened to the couple who shared what they saw. If you believe what the two guys were saying on the live interview both the husband and wife were banned from the church before they had a chance to explain what they observed. Chad had asked to see the video of the buidling since video cameras are everywhere and he was denied! One of the pastors even told him to tear up the report he had written up as he believed it should go to child protective services.

So what kind of a message does this say? It says, “if you have something to report, even a safety concern with our staff know you could be punished for speaking up. The penalty? Banned from the church along with everyone else who isn’t loyal. Disloyalty is saying or doing something that doesn’t put the church in the best possible light. This is unbelievable to me…..that this couple was ostracised because they wanted to report a potential danger to one or more of the Trinity kids. This is why warning signs are not reported because of what might happen to the reporter. The message of Trinity is very clear…..what you have to report, even about the kids is not wanted if it invoves staff. Sadly most of the parents there will ignore what happened because they love Mark and want to continue hearing his messages. As for the couple booted out of the church. They probably have been given an attorney letter to keep quiet or get sued. Thankfully Chad went to the Scottsdale PD and reported the incident anyway. He shouldn’t have though. It should have been reported by one of the Trinity pastors immediately.

By: MaryKaye

MaryKaye — Thu, 08 Jul 2021 15:49:34 +0000

In reply to Let there be truth.

In other words, it’s a consumerist view of religion. You pay your tithes and in return you are entertained and/or edified by the preaching, and that’s the extent of it–it’s a business relationship in which they produce goods and you consume them. You’re not a member of an organization (my understanding is that Trinity actually does not have members). You’re certainly not part of a community. You’re not part of the Bride of Christ or anything mystical like that. You’re a *customer.*

This means, of course, that if the leadership is abusive it’s not your problem. We hear the same argument about Amazon. “I’m just buying from them. It’s not my fault they treat their workers badly. The product is good and that’s what I care about.”

It’s no wonder that this model of religion leads nowhere good. And it’s kind of shocking to see Christianity fall into it.

By: ken

ken — Thu, 01 Jul 2021 11:58:52 +0000

In reply to Let there be truth. Neither of those men are alive and harming people the way Driscoll is. And in terms of the good done, Driscoll doesn't compare to either of them. Why do you keep trying to defend a dangerous, conman like Driscoll?