Comments on: Postcards from Phoenix: When Church Divides a Family

By: And I'm Cute, Too

And I'm Cute, Too — Thu, 22 Jul 2021 12:33:04 +0000

In reply to mirele.

That’s why I’m considering a new nickname for Driscoll: Mark Dris-cavige.

Mind you, only those in the know about the Co$ will get it…

By: Virak_Mac

Virak_Mac — Wed, 02 Jun 2021 11:13:09 +0000

This is incredibly painful to watch unfold. I grew up in an unhealthy and moderately authoritarian church and Christian school with a couple of leaders who, if given the chance, would have become Mark Driscoll. It really is like watching people needlessly endure an abusive marriage.

By: quidam65

quidam65 — Wed, 02 Jun 2021 10:19:30 +0000

In reply to mirele. I had a similar experience when I left Fellowship Church in DFW (the home of Ed "The Bed" Young). After I left, when I visited a few months later one person spoke to me to inform me about the sad passing of one of the associate pastor's sons (both had MD and were in end stages). Otherwise, nearly two decades later I've only had dealing with TWO people from there: a former friend who had turned on me (but later on he repented and admitted his actions were wrong, tragically he died two years ago) and my domestic partner. I've lived in the same house with the same address and phone number for over two decades so it's not like I'm hard to find if someone from there wanted to find me.

By: otrotierra

otrotierra — Tue, 01 Jun 2021 11:01:17 +0000

In reply to DoctorDJ. True, though people at Mars Hill got caught up in Driscoll's psychological manipulation, workplace bullying, and spiritual abuse. So we are seeing it again at Driscoll's current church.

By: otrotierra

otrotierra — Mon, 31 May 2021 23:01:12 +0000

In reply to mirele. bless you for your courage!

By: Pilgrim

Pilgrim — Sun, 30 May 2021 23:43:12 +0000

Wow. I live in the Pacific Northwest so followed the rise and fall of Mars Hill Church, even buying serveral books and going to a few satellite services in Olympia, WA. This is so troubling to hear. It’s also damaging to the adult children and their marriages. In Seattle the downfall was about money, lack of transparency and power. No doubt, many relationships suffered. I’ve never heard of a pastor acting like this to his congregation. Sounds like a new but repeating pattern. All that real man, real woman stuff becomes a bit personal and in bad taste; possibly a big hang-up there. I hope Mark Driscoll is able to get the help he needs.

By: Mr Jesperson

Mr Jesperson — Sun, 30 May 2021 22:57:31 +0000

And the saga continues even while I am realizing that a “worship service” is just letting out down in the Valley. Driscoll is among the worst of the worst if you judge that at the end of Mars Hill there were many former members showing up to picket the church each Sunday. I know of no one else who has managed to accomplish this and I suspect that others will join Mirele on the picket line sooner than later. I thought him to be the worst until I read that his buddy in Chicago was looking for hitmen to hire twice to kill his enemies. This is a reason of concern to me. And this news getting out will just make Pastor Narcissist that much more angry and paranoid. I expect things to get worse, even to the point that people in his church will have to bend over backward to ignore the Elephant that is now and has been for years plainly in the churches Mark has lead. I would not be surprised if Driscoll ends up arrested and charged with something as he is clearly getting worse with time.

By: thatotherjean

thatotherjean — Sun, 30 May 2021 22:54:52 +0000

Mark Driscoll is pretty clearly making the same mistakes he made at Mars Hill, but there’s no one at Trinity who can tell him to stop it. This will not end well; but I hope it ends quickly, for the sake of his congregation. They deserve better.

By: Mr Jesperson

Mr Jesperson — Sun, 30 May 2021 15:21:17 +0000

In reply to mirele. Nice strategy there Mirele! While it is not uncommon to have friction with in-laws, having them banned from setting foot on your business property is quite over the top. Cockroaches run from the light which is why we are instructed to walk in the light. It is a shame that so many professed Christians cannot tell the difference between light and darkness in their own church they attend. How are they suppose to recognize it in The World, when they cannot recognize it in their own preferred religious institution?

By: DoctorDJ

DoctorDJ — Sun, 30 May 2021 14:55:16 +0000

In reply to thatotherjean. There's nothing holding the congregants to Driscoll's church. (Or is there? With the NDAs, did they also forfeit their firstborn?)