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	Comments on: Mark Driscoll&#8217;s Elderless Church, Part Two	</title>
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		By: Pilgrim		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-112207</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pilgrim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2021 00:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-111808&quot;&gt;Barb&lt;/a&gt;.

I think presbyterians understand human depravity and safegaurd against it. Refreshing to hear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-111808">Barb</a>.</p>
<p>I think presbyterians understand human depravity and safegaurd against it. Refreshing to hear.</p>
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		By: Digger		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-112112</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Digger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2021 19:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-112105&quot;&gt;Headless Unicorn Guy&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes. Billy Graham got up in it. You can always tell when a prominent figure is guilty as hell. They  start hanging with a well known preacher as a &quot;spiritual advisor&quot;.. I well remember Bill Hybels showing up on Nightline pimping for Bill Clinton. Now Hybels just pimps for himself... The guy that was showing up was a well known &quot;completed jew&quot; who I think was also an MD.. Can&#039;t remember his name..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-112105">Headless Unicorn Guy</a>.</p>
<p>Yes. Billy Graham got up in it. You can always tell when a prominent figure is guilty as hell. They  start hanging with a well known preacher as a &#8220;spiritual advisor&#8221;.. I well remember Bill Hybels showing up on Nightline pimping for Bill Clinton. Now Hybels just pimps for himself&#8230; The guy that was showing up was a well known &#8220;completed jew&#8221; who I think was also an MD.. Can&#8217;t remember his name..</p>
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		By: Headless Unicorn Guy		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-112105</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Headless Unicorn Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2021 19:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-111823&quot;&gt;Digger&lt;/a&gt;.

The Sixties version of Court Evangelicals holding MAGA rallies at their Megas?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-111823">Digger</a>.</p>
<p>The Sixties version of Court Evangelicals holding MAGA rallies at their Megas?</p>
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		By: Digger		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-112113</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Digger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2021 14:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-112105&quot;&gt;Headless Unicorn Guy&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes. Billy Graham got up in it. You can always tell when a prominent figure is guilty as hell. They  start hanging with a well known preacher as a &quot;spiritual advisor&quot;.. I well remember Bill Hybels showing up on Nightline pimping for Bill Clinton. Now Hybels just pimps for himself... The guy that was showing up was a well known &quot;completed jew&quot; who I think was also an MD.. Can&#039;t remember his name..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-112105">Headless Unicorn Guy</a>.</p>
<p>Yes. Billy Graham got up in it. You can always tell when a prominent figure is guilty as hell. They  start hanging with a well known preacher as a &#8220;spiritual advisor&#8221;.. I well remember Bill Hybels showing up on Nightline pimping for Bill Clinton. Now Hybels just pimps for himself&#8230; The guy that was showing up was a well known &#8220;completed jew&#8221; who I think was also an MD.. Can&#8217;t remember his name..</p>
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		By: Headless Unicorn Guy		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-112029</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Headless Unicorn Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2021 22:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-111790&quot;&gt;Mr Jesperson&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The context is the Trump prophecies and the fact that so many people who
 made false prophecies refuse to apologize and, of course, they refused 
to sign the document./blockquote&#062;
This is a continuing theme on YouTube&#039;s atheist channels &quot;Telltale&quot; and &quot;Telltale Podcast&quot;. The guy who does them both is an ex-JW who has a special interest in Cults. Some recent podcasts hint he and his family recently got run out of town/out of state (West Virginia) for his YouTube channel - one passing mention that his 12-year-old daughter got accosted and threatened at her school bus stop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-111790">Mr Jesperson</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The context is the Trump prophecies and the fact that so many people who<br />
 made false prophecies refuse to apologize and, of course, they refused<br />
to sign the document./blockquote&gt;<br />
This is a continuing theme on YouTube&#8217;s atheist channels &#8220;Telltale&#8221; and &#8220;Telltale Podcast&#8221;. The guy who does them both is an ex-JW who has a special interest in Cults. Some recent podcasts hint he and his family recently got run out of town/out of state (West Virginia) for his YouTube channel &#8211; one passing mention that his 12-year-old daughter got accosted and threatened at her school bus stop.</p></blockquote>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-112031</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2021 13:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-112025&quot;&gt;Headless Unicorn Guy&lt;/a&gt;.

I get it now!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-112025">Headless Unicorn Guy</a>.</p>
<p>I get it now!</p>
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		By: Headless Unicorn Guy		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-112028</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Headless Unicorn Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2021 11:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-111770&quot;&gt;DoctorDJ&lt;/a&gt;.

We have &quot;Financial Transparency&quot; BECAUSE I SAY SO!


&quot;If the Fuehrer says so, Two Plus Two Equals Five.&quot;
-- Reichsmarshall Herman Goering]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-111770">DoctorDJ</a>.</p>
<p>We have &#8220;Financial Transparency&#8221; BECAUSE I SAY SO!</p>
<p>&#8220;If the Fuehrer says so, Two Plus Two Equals Five.&#8221;<br />
&#8212; Reichsmarshall Herman Goering</p>
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		By: Headless Unicorn Guy		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-112027</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Headless Unicorn Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2021 11:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-111784&quot;&gt;Mr Jesperson&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Henri Ironside, a Moody pastor who died 70 years ago.  He posted up a 
new post late yesterday afternoon on the blog about preachers hiring 
ghost writers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Somehow the combination seems appropriate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-111784">Mr Jesperson</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Henri Ironside, a Moody pastor who died 70 years ago.  He posted up a<br />
new post late yesterday afternoon on the blog about preachers hiring<br />
ghost writers.</p></blockquote>
<p>Somehow the combination seems appropriate.</p>
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		By: Headless Unicorn Guy		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-112026</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Headless Unicorn Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2021 11:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-111797&quot;&gt;rrhersh&lt;/a&gt;.

Mainline denoms have these things called &quot;institutional memory&quot; and &quot;track record&quot; of experience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-111797">rrhersh</a>.</p>
<p>Mainline denoms have these things called &#8220;institutional memory&#8221; and &#8220;track record&#8221; of experience.</p>
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		By: Headless Unicorn Guy		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-112025</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Headless Unicorn Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2021 11:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-111865&quot;&gt;Richard Willmer&lt;/a&gt;.

The Al Stewart song was a historical reference.
The &quot;Last day of June 1934&quot; was the day of the Nazis&#039; Coup From Within, AKA The Night of Long Knives.


Full stanza:
&quot;On the night that Ernst Roehm died voices rang out
In the rolling Bavarian hills
And swept through the cities and danced in the gutters
Grown strong like the joining of wills


Oh echoed away like a roar in the distance
In moonlight carved out of steel
Singing &quot;All the lonely, so long and so long
You don&#039;t know how I long, how I long
You can&#039;t hold me, I&#039;m strong now I&#039;m strong
Stronger than your law&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2021/04/28/mark-driscolls-elderless-church-part-two/#comment-111865">Richard Willmer</a>.</p>
<p>The Al Stewart song was a historical reference.<br />
The &#8220;Last day of June 1934&#8221; was the day of the Nazis&#8217; Coup From Within, AKA The Night of Long Knives.</p>
<p>Full stanza:<br />
&#8220;On the night that Ernst Roehm died voices rang out<br />
In the rolling Bavarian hills<br />
And swept through the cities and danced in the gutters<br />
Grown strong like the joining of wills</p>
<p>Oh echoed away like a roar in the distance<br />
In moonlight carved out of steel<br />
Singing &#8220;All the lonely, so long and so long<br />
You don&#8217;t know how I long, how I long<br />
You can&#8217;t hold me, I&#8217;m strong now I&#8217;m strong<br />
Stronger than your law&#8221;</p>
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