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	Comments on: Another COVID-19 Outbreak at John MacArthur&#8217;s Grace Community Church &#8211; UPDATED	</title>
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		By: kr2726		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110952</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2021 20:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110726&quot;&gt;Rob Grayson&lt;/a&gt;.

Amen. One of his right hand henchmen, Travis Allen (who organized his laughable Strange Fire conference), invited me to Easter dinner with his family in 2015. Then he actually kicked me out of his car for refusing to deny that Jesus came to me in a glorious  amazing dream when I was 18 (I ate McDonald&#039;s that Easter). These men idolize John MacArthur, who&#039;s nothing but a cult leader, who profanes the blood of Christ, and says it doesn&#039;t save us, and says yiu can take the mark and still be saved. And he clearly takes from the Word of God in Job 33, that He DOES come to us in dreams and visions, to turn our souls back from the pit, as He did ME.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110726">Rob Grayson</a>.</p>
<p>Amen. One of his right hand henchmen, Travis Allen (who organized his laughable Strange Fire conference), invited me to Easter dinner with his family in 2015. Then he actually kicked me out of his car for refusing to deny that Jesus came to me in a glorious  amazing dream when I was 18 (I ate McDonald&#8217;s that Easter). These men idolize John MacArthur, who&#8217;s nothing but a cult leader, who profanes the blood of Christ, and says it doesn&#8217;t save us, and says yiu can take the mark and still be saved. And he clearly takes from the Word of God in Job 33, that He DOES come to us in dreams and visions, to turn our souls back from the pit, as He did ME.</p>
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		By: kr2726		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2021 20:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110726&quot;&gt;Rob Grayson&lt;/a&gt;.

Amen. One of his right hand henchmen, Travis Allen (who organized his laughable Strange Fire conference), invited me to Easter dinner with his family in 2015. Then he actually kicked me out of his car for refusing to deny that Jesus came to me in a glorious  amazing dream when I was 18 (I ate McDonald&#039;s that Easter). These men idolize John MacArthur, who&#039;s nothing but a cult leader, who profanes the blood of Christ, and says it doesn&#039;t save us, and says yiu can take the mark and still be saved. And he clearly takes from the Word of God in Job 33, that He DOES come to us in dreams and visions, to turn our souls back from the pit, as He did ME.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110726">Rob Grayson</a>.</p>
<p>Amen. One of his right hand henchmen, Travis Allen (who organized his laughable Strange Fire conference), invited me to Easter dinner with his family in 2015. Then he actually kicked me out of his car for refusing to deny that Jesus came to me in a glorious  amazing dream when I was 18 (I ate McDonald&#8217;s that Easter). These men idolize John MacArthur, who&#8217;s nothing but a cult leader, who profanes the blood of Christ, and says it doesn&#8217;t save us, and says yiu can take the mark and still be saved. And he clearly takes from the Word of God in Job 33, that He DOES come to us in dreams and visions, to turn our souls back from the pit, as He did ME.</p>
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		By: bluebird		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110777</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2020 16:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There have been several articles lately about the surge of Covid in Southern California in the New York Times, the Washington Post, LA Times and today in the Atlantic with no mention of mega churches like GCC who meet weekly with no social distancing or masks. Surely experienced journalists haven’t overlooked this church activity. I don’t think we can blame it all on Thanksgiving exposure.  Is it just too politically incorrect to mention this?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been several articles lately about the surge of Covid in Southern California in the New York Times, the Washington Post, LA Times and today in the Atlantic with no mention of mega churches like GCC who meet weekly with no social distancing or masks. Surely experienced journalists haven’t overlooked this church activity. I don’t think we can blame it all on Thanksgiving exposure.  Is it just too politically incorrect to mention this?</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 18:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110757&quot;&gt;Jim Roberts&lt;/a&gt;.

It is most odd, isn&#039;t it?!  Is it an American problem?  I get the impression that, in Western Europe, churches generally tend to be far less suspicious of scientific progress.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110757">Jim Roberts</a>.</p>
<p>It is most odd, isn&#8217;t it?!  Is it an American problem?  I get the impression that, in Western Europe, churches generally tend to be far less suspicious of scientific progress.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110771</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110768&quot;&gt;Richard Willmer&lt;/a&gt;.

Even the Amish are looking at these churches and going &quot;What&#039;s wrong with these people?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110768">Richard Willmer</a>.</p>
<p>Even the Amish are looking at these churches and going &#8220;What&#8217;s wrong with these people?&#8221;</p>
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		By: Rob Grayson		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110760</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Grayson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 14:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110759&quot;&gt;WillysJeepMan&lt;/a&gt;.

IMHO, the fact that John MacArthur hasn&#039;t contracted COVID in spite of what he is doing is the result of nothing more than dumb luck. Unfortunately, not everyone at GCC has been so lucky.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110759">WillysJeepMan</a>.</p>
<p>IMHO, the fact that John MacArthur hasn&#8217;t contracted COVID in spite of what he is doing is the result of nothing more than dumb luck. Unfortunately, not everyone at GCC has been so lucky.</p>
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		By: Jim Roberts		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110757</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 13:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110727&quot;&gt;Richard Willmer&lt;/a&gt;.

If it&#039;s a mainstream church, you can bet that at some level, they&#039;re anti-vaxx, or at least accepting of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110727">Richard Willmer</a>.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s a mainstream church, you can bet that at some level, they&#8217;re anti-vaxx, or at least accepting of it.</p>
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		By: Rob Grayson		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110761</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Grayson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 09:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110759&quot;&gt;WillysJeepMan&lt;/a&gt;.

IMHO, the fact that John MacArthur hasn&#039;t contracted COVID in spite of what he is doing is the result of nothing more than dumb luck. Unfortunately, not everyone at GCC has been so lucky.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110759">WillysJeepMan</a>.</p>
<p>IMHO, the fact that John MacArthur hasn&#8217;t contracted COVID in spite of what he is doing is the result of nothing more than dumb luck. Unfortunately, not everyone at GCC has been so lucky.</p>
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		By: WillysJeepMan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WillysJeepMan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 09:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110726&quot;&gt;Rob Grayson&lt;/a&gt;.

There were possible  reasonable explanations for John MacArthur&#039;s motivations for defying California orders early on, but those explanations are no longer viable now that it has been revealed that he is lying and manipulating people to hide the fact that people within the church have contracted and spreading the virus.  The Lord would never call his servants to lie.

The fact that John MacArthur hasn&#039;t contracted COVID in spite of what he is doing is an act of God&#039;s mercy. It&#039;s an opportunity for him to repent.  Mercy can often be misinterpreted as consent. 

I&#039;ve seen many who experienced God&#039;s favor go beyond the &quot;&lt;i&gt;point of no return&lt;/i&gt;&quot; in unrepentant sin.  Although none of use really know what the point is for any particular person or situation, it seems like MacArthur has gone beyond that point.   I pray that he would repent while there is still time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110726">Rob Grayson</a>.</p>
<p>There were possible  reasonable explanations for John MacArthur&#8217;s motivations for defying California orders early on, but those explanations are no longer viable now that it has been revealed that he is lying and manipulating people to hide the fact that people within the church have contracted and spreading the virus.  The Lord would never call his servants to lie.</p>
<p>The fact that John MacArthur hasn&#8217;t contracted COVID in spite of what he is doing is an act of God&#8217;s mercy. It&#8217;s an opportunity for him to repent.  Mercy can often be misinterpreted as consent. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen many who experienced God&#8217;s favor go beyond the &#8220;<i>point of no return</i>&#8221; in unrepentant sin.  Although none of use really know what the point is for any particular person or situation, it seems like MacArthur has gone beyond that point.   I pray that he would repent while there is still time.</p>
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		By: Rob Grayson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Grayson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 08:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110740&quot;&gt;Headless Unicorn Guy&lt;/a&gt;.

Yesterday evening I felt a bit guilty about having succumbed to my baser instincts and left this comment, to the extent that I was thinking about coming back this morning and deleting it. But now that you&#039;ve replied, I guess I&#039;ll leave it here :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/12/19/another-outbreak-at-john-macarthurs-grace-community-church/#comment-110740">Headless Unicorn Guy</a>.</p>
<p>Yesterday evening I felt a bit guilty about having succumbed to my baser instincts and left this comment, to the extent that I was thinking about coming back this morning and deleting it. But now that you&#8217;ve replied, I guess I&#8217;ll leave it here 🙂</p>
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