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	Comments on: Government Raids Believers Church &#038; K.P. Yohannan in India Over Foreign Contributions	</title>
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		By: disqus_qrM8Pi0j9p		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/11/05/government-raids-believers-church-in-india-over-foreign-contributions/#comment-110356&quot;&gt;Erp&lt;/a&gt;.

I am a Christian from Kerala. A widespread image is spread by vested interests globally that Christian organisations are targted in India under the BJP government of Narendra Modi.  Let me tell you one thing; unlike Muslims and Christians, for majority of the Hindus, religion is more cultural. They are not the ones who are 24/7 obsessed with their religion and when they meet someone, they are never bothered what religion the other person belongs. 
Charity organisations in India were abusing their special status and were colluding with politicians of all dispensations and they could scam gullible devotees and create financial empires without any income tax or regulatory hurdles. Politicians corrupt money also used to be routed through these outfits (round-tripping of unaccounted or ill-gotten wealth). 
Modi did bring in stricter norms for these charties and greater accountability for the money which is being raised abroad. While it could have made life difficult for many of these dubious people (like K P Yohannan), its possible that some genuine work also could have got affected due to fund flow being affected. 
But just not that it is not just the Christian evangelists who are facing the heat. Many Hindu babas, dubious gurus, Godmen are all in trouble. A case in point is Swami Nityananda who had to escape the country. Another leading Hindu Godman Asaram  is in jail on rape charges. Many godmen are in fact in jail of late. 
While many Christian entities would be facing the heat, it cannot be denied that they were misusing their special status. Dont forget the fact that the &quot;fringe&quot; is much bigger among Christians (fanatic 24/7 obsession with their specific religion and being judgemental towards everyone else including other Christian groups) and Muslims (violent obsession with their religion and religious book). The &quot;fringe&quot; among Hindus is a reaction to the &quot;fringe&quot; among Christians and Muslims but I would say it still will be a very negligible minority but the fringe is always more vocal and makes more noise!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/11/05/government-raids-believers-church-in-india-over-foreign-contributions/#comment-110356">Erp</a>.</p>
<p>I am a Christian from Kerala. A widespread image is spread by vested interests globally that Christian organisations are targted in India under the BJP government of Narendra Modi.  Let me tell you one thing; unlike Muslims and Christians, for majority of the Hindus, religion is more cultural. They are not the ones who are 24/7 obsessed with their religion and when they meet someone, they are never bothered what religion the other person belongs.<br />
Charity organisations in India were abusing their special status and were colluding with politicians of all dispensations and they could scam gullible devotees and create financial empires without any income tax or regulatory hurdles. Politicians corrupt money also used to be routed through these outfits (round-tripping of unaccounted or ill-gotten wealth).<br />
Modi did bring in stricter norms for these charties and greater accountability for the money which is being raised abroad. While it could have made life difficult for many of these dubious people (like K P Yohannan), its possible that some genuine work also could have got affected due to fund flow being affected.<br />
But just not that it is not just the Christian evangelists who are facing the heat. Many Hindu babas, dubious gurus, Godmen are all in trouble. A case in point is Swami Nityananda who had to escape the country. Another leading Hindu Godman Asaram  is in jail on rape charges. Many godmen are in fact in jail of late.<br />
While many Christian entities would be facing the heat, it cannot be denied that they were misusing their special status. Dont forget the fact that the &#8220;fringe&#8221; is much bigger among Christians (fanatic 24/7 obsession with their specific religion and being judgemental towards everyone else including other Christian groups) and Muslims (violent obsession with their religion and religious book). The &#8220;fringe&#8221; among Hindus is a reaction to the &#8220;fringe&#8221; among Christians and Muslims but I would say it still will be a very negligible minority but the fringe is always more vocal and makes more noise!!</p>
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		By: Mr Jesperson		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/11/05/government-raids-believers-church-in-india-over-foreign-contributions/#comment-110379</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2020 23:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While I do not know how exactly things will happen or when I do know that the end of all this will go very badly for KP and his family.  We are in an age of judgment and this man managed to make himself one of the biggest targets on God&#039;s radar.  When God decides to make some examples of people who have mocked Him and leveraged His name for personal benefit, well KP has likely made the top 10 list.  

Excerpts from Psalm 37: &quot;Do not fret when wicked men seem to succeed.  Do not envy evildoers.  For they will quickly dry up like grass,
and wither away like plants.&quot;  &quot;Wait patiently for the Lord!  Wait confidently for him!  Do not fret over the apparent success of a sinner, a man who carries out wicked schemes.  Do not be angry and frustrated.  Do not fret. That only leads to trouble.  Wicked men will be wiped out, but those who rely on the Lord are the ones who will possess the land.  Evil men will soon disappear; you will stare at the spot where they once were, but they will be gone.&quot;  This day is coming much sooner than KP thinks...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I do not know how exactly things will happen or when I do know that the end of all this will go very badly for KP and his family.  We are in an age of judgment and this man managed to make himself one of the biggest targets on God&#8217;s radar.  When God decides to make some examples of people who have mocked Him and leveraged His name for personal benefit, well KP has likely made the top 10 list.  </p>
<p>Excerpts from Psalm 37: &#8220;Do not fret when wicked men seem to succeed.  Do not envy evildoers.  For they will quickly dry up like grass,<br />
and wither away like plants.&#8221;  &#8220;Wait patiently for the Lord!  Wait confidently for him!  Do not fret over the apparent success of a sinner, a man who carries out wicked schemes.  Do not be angry and frustrated.  Do not fret. That only leads to trouble.  Wicked men will be wiped out, but those who rely on the Lord are the ones who will possess the land.  Evil men will soon disappear; you will stare at the spot where they once were, but they will be gone.&#8221;  This day is coming much sooner than KP thinks&#8230;</p>
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		By: thatotherjean		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/11/05/government-raids-believers-church-in-india-over-foreign-contributions/#comment-110372</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2020 18:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For quite a while now, Believers&#039; Church and the organizations associated with it have looked like a scam.  They&#039;re not being honest with, well, pretty much anybody--certainly not their foreign contributors.  I hope the government of India can shut them down, and that contributors will direct their donations to other causes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For quite a while now, Believers&#8217; Church and the organizations associated with it have looked like a scam.  They&#8217;re not being honest with, well, pretty much anybody&#8211;certainly not their foreign contributors.  I hope the government of India can shut them down, and that contributors will direct their donations to other causes.</p>
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		By: Bene D		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2020 15:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good.]]></description>
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		By: Erp		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/11/05/government-raids-believers-church-in-india-over-foreign-contributions/#comment-110356</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2020 09:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the conversion is correct 54 lakh of rupees is about 73,000 dollars for what was found in the car.   I will note that the current Indian government does have a strong pro-Hindu bias which has repercussions on religious groups not perceived as Hindu.  This can include making it difficult to tell whether a group being targeted by the authorities is actually corrupt or being persecuted for being non-Hindu.    It also makes it easy for the group to claim the latter to hide the former.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the conversion is correct 54 lakh of rupees is about 73,000 dollars for what was found in the car.   I will note that the current Indian government does have a strong pro-Hindu bias which has repercussions on religious groups not perceived as Hindu.  This can include making it difficult to tell whether a group being targeted by the authorities is actually corrupt or being persecuted for being non-Hindu.    It also makes it easy for the group to claim the latter to hide the former.</p>
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