MacArthur is planning on filing a lawsuit, correct? It’s possible that the court might find that LA county violated the 8th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. Still, LA county has the right to discipline GCC but it has to be reasonable. In similar cases, plaintiff and defendants can get a settlement out of court, where nobody gets punished. I hope this one will be so.

So fining organizations the required amount for disobeying ordinances it “too harsh” for you?

Enforcing contempt of court citations (which potentially could mean jail time), esp. when the defendant is flouting public health orders and risking spreading a deadly disease, is “too harsh” for you?

I never said his mocking of the judge was illegal, although, it can be used against him if he is charged with contempt of court. I’m suggesting that it is evidence he was NOT “trying to reason with the authorities.” Your repeated attempts to dodge my question about that indicate you also know he wasn’t “trying to reason with authorities.”

Given what he had said ,as well as the “waiver” he required volunteers to sign, indicates the signs he put up were less about “negotiating” and more about trying to cover himself against future lawsuits.

Uhm, he was fined over $1,000, and then he was threatened to go to jail. At least, that’s what everybody here is talking about. I think sending him to jail would be cruel and unusual punishment. When he preached the sermon on mocking judge’s order, he wasn’t doing anything illegal per First Amendment. But even if he was, considering the fact that afterwards he posted those signs with warnings about the virus, it showed negotiation on his part and Los Angeles government should take that into account.

You never actually answered my questions. Lets try again:

what punishment has actually been done to him? i.e what are you claiming is “too harsh”?

Was MacArthur “trying to reason with authorities” when he deliberately mocked a judge’s order about wearing masks and social distancing?

It is not against the law to have ill wills against somebody and whatever mocking comments MacArthur has made, it was protected by free speech. His actions, not words, demonstrate that he is trying to negotiate with LA county and in American judicial system, we have a thing called settlement out of court. I hope GCC and LA will accomplish this for the benefit of all parties involved.