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		By: Bones		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2020 05:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/08/30/john-macarthur-there-is-no-pandemic/#comment-109679&quot;&gt;TV&lt;/a&gt;.

Bahahaha

Republicans are nothing like the liberal party. 

They are more like our racist One Nation Party. 

Oh yeah I live in a labor state with next to nil covid cases. 

Well done for showing you know sfa about Australian politics.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/08/30/john-macarthur-there-is-no-pandemic/#comment-109679">TV</a>.</p>
<p>Bahahaha</p>
<p>Republicans are nothing like the liberal party. </p>
<p>They are more like our racist One Nation Party. </p>
<p>Oh yeah I live in a labor state with next to nil covid cases. </p>
<p>Well done for showing you know sfa about Australian politics.</p>
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		By: TV		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2020 00:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/08/30/john-macarthur-there-is-no-pandemic/#comment-109146&quot;&gt;Bones&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, your country is a perfect example of how left-leaning politicians are using draconian measures restricting people&#039;s liberties all in the name of eradicating COVID, especially in the state of Victoria:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8quxetI8wxY

I would also characterize your Labor v. Liberal Coalition rivalry as Aussie Democrat vs. Republican riff in the US, especially on the virus issues.  Scott Morrison was selected to be your Prime Minister because of his strong support for Donald Trump, fyi.  

The part on combrities, ie preexisting conditions.  By watching how fiercely you and Gary were arguing about them, tells me how controversial it is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/08/30/john-macarthur-there-is-no-pandemic/#comment-109146">Bones</a>.</p>
<p>Well, your country is a perfect example of how left-leaning politicians are using draconian measures restricting people&#8217;s liberties all in the name of eradicating COVID, especially in the state of Victoria:<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8quxetI8wxY" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8quxetI8wxY</a></p>
<p>I would also characterize your Labor v. Liberal Coalition rivalry as Aussie Democrat vs. Republican riff in the US, especially on the virus issues.  Scott Morrison was selected to be your Prime Minister because of his strong support for Donald Trump, fyi.  </p>
<p>The part on combrities, ie preexisting conditions.  By watching how fiercely you and Gary were arguing about them, tells me how controversial it is.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2020 19:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/08/30/john-macarthur-there-is-no-pandemic/#comment-109451&quot;&gt;Jimbo Mcgee&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;since we know that the test is incapable of determining which strain of coronavirus&quot;


I don&#039;t know that, nor do I believe this claim and you have yet to prove it. 



&quot;It is not even controversial that antibody tests are not strain-specific.&quot;


No it isn&#039;t controversial, it is a false statement.  One you keep making.  Until you can provide actual evidence that the antibody test that the CDC claims are for covid-19 antibodies (as opposed to corona viruses in general) I will keep pointing out it is a false claim.]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;since we know that the test is incapable of determining which strain of coronavirus&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that, nor do I believe this claim and you have yet to prove it. </p>
<p>&#8220;It is not even controversial that antibody tests are not strain-specific.&#8221;</p>
<p>No it isn&#8217;t controversial, it is a false statement.  One you keep making.  Until you can provide actual evidence that the antibody test that the CDC claims are for covid-19 antibodies (as opposed to corona viruses in general) I will keep pointing out it is a false claim.</p>
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		By: HamburgerHelper		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2020 18:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/08/30/john-macarthur-there-is-no-pandemic/#comment-108920&quot;&gt;eric fehrman&lt;/a&gt;.

Is it me or do I small some Confirmation Bias? (Selective data here)]]></description>
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<p>Is it me or do I small some Confirmation Bias? (Selective data here)</p>
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		By: Jimbo Mcgee		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2020 11:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/08/30/john-macarthur-there-is-no-pandemic/#comment-109450&quot;&gt;ken&lt;/a&gt;.

1. &quot;According to the CDC (in the link I provided) there are&quot;- This right here indicates that you didn&#039;t read what I wrote or, possibly, didn&#039;t understand it. I will simply repost what I wrote, so you can re-read it: &quot;Clearly, this is simply intended to mean &#039;if someone tests positive for any coronavirus antibodies...&#039;, since we know that the test is incapable of determining which strain of coronavirus the antibodies are from. It is presumably written in such a way for the layperson who doesn&#039;t know that.&quot;


2.&quot;Again, you claim this but have provided no proof of that claim. From the link I gave (emphasis added):&quot; It is not even controversial that antibody tests are not strain-specific. (Porbably never will be possible, either.) Regarding the verbiage in the link you sent, refer back to #1. 


3. &quot;..it is not A single test, various labs have developed different tests, with varying degrees of accuracy.&quot; - Assuming you&#039;re talking about antibody tests, the varying degrees of accuracy refer to the superior or inferior false positive/negative rate, NOT that more accurate tests can determine the genome (and thus strain) of the coronavirus that triggered the antibody creation by your body. Again, you do realize that antibody tests not being strain specific is as close a thing to &quot;common knowledge&quot; in the field as one can get, right?


4. &quot;I don&#039;t think it is &quot;premature&quot; to claim you are misrepresenting the facts&quot; - It is increasingly being demonstrated that it was premature.


5. &quot;...and then claim &quot;I never said A was true&quot; when challenged on it. which is exactly what you are doing here.&quot; - Uh, no. My stance consistently has been that A=true is *not impossible*. I go even further in stating that it&#039;s actually *likely*. I never state that A is true (though I believe it is), so your demand for evidence that it&#039;s true makes no sense. 


6. &quot;you didn&#039;t give this implication statement until AFTER I specifically ask you for evidence about the accuracy of antibody tests&quot; - You demand elaboration, and then paint it as evasion!


7. &quot;Except this isn&#039;t &quot;a fact&quot; it is a claim you keep making over and over and have yet to provide any evidence of, even though I have asked you several times for your evidence.&quot; - Refer to #2 and #3. This is like demanding evidence that motors don&#039;t run on chocolate syrup. And the reason I keep having to claim &quot;over and over&quot; is because you keep failing to understand over and over.


8. &quot;You&#039;ll find that the tricks that are able to fool Trump supporters aren&#039;t going to work here.&quot; - Aha, maybe this explains your bizarre refusal to concede even singular, isolated points. You have been thinking this whole time to yourself &quot;I can&#039;t let a Trump supporter win&quot; (maybe sub-consciously). I am not a Trump supporter. For your own sake, you should not let the Trump and the politics surrounding him get under your skin.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2020/08/30/john-macarthur-there-is-no-pandemic/#comment-109450">ken</a>.</p>
<p>1. &#8220;According to the CDC (in the link I provided) there are&#8221;- This right here indicates that you didn&#8217;t read what I wrote or, possibly, didn&#8217;t understand it. I will simply repost what I wrote, so you can re-read it: &#8220;Clearly, this is simply intended to mean &#8216;if someone tests positive for any coronavirus antibodies&#8230;&#8217;, since we know that the test is incapable of determining which strain of coronavirus the antibodies are from. It is presumably written in such a way for the layperson who doesn&#8217;t know that.&#8221;</p>
<p>2.&#8221;Again, you claim this but have provided no proof of that claim. From the link I gave (emphasis added):&#8221; It is not even controversial that antibody tests are not strain-specific. (Porbably never will be possible, either.) Regarding the verbiage in the link you sent, refer back to #1. </p>
<p>3. &#8220;..it is not A single test, various labs have developed different tests, with varying degrees of accuracy.&#8221; &#8211; Assuming you&#8217;re talking about antibody tests, the varying degrees of accuracy refer to the superior or inferior false positive/negative rate, NOT that more accurate tests can determine the genome (and thus strain) of the coronavirus that triggered the antibody creation by your body. Again, you do realize that antibody tests not being strain specific is as close a thing to &#8220;common knowledge&#8221; in the field as one can get, right?</p>
<p>4. &#8220;I don&#8217;t think it is &#8220;premature&#8221; to claim you are misrepresenting the facts&#8221; &#8211; It is increasingly being demonstrated that it was premature.</p>
<p>5. &#8220;&#8230;and then claim &#8220;I never said A was true&#8221; when challenged on it. which is exactly what you are doing here.&#8221; &#8211; Uh, no. My stance consistently has been that A=true is *not impossible*. I go even further in stating that it&#8217;s actually *likely*. I never state that A is true (though I believe it is), so your demand for evidence that it&#8217;s true makes no sense. </p>
<p>6. &#8220;you didn&#8217;t give this implication statement until AFTER I specifically ask you for evidence about the accuracy of antibody tests&#8221; &#8211; You demand elaboration, and then paint it as evasion!</p>
<p>7. &#8220;Except this isn&#8217;t &#8220;a fact&#8221; it is a claim you keep making over and over and have yet to provide any evidence of, even though I have asked you several times for your evidence.&#8221; &#8211; Refer to #2 and #3. This is like demanding evidence that motors don&#8217;t run on chocolate syrup. And the reason I keep having to claim &#8220;over and over&#8221; is because you keep failing to understand over and over.</p>
<p>8. &#8220;You&#8217;ll find that the tricks that are able to fool Trump supporters aren&#8217;t going to work here.&#8221; &#8211; Aha, maybe this explains your bizarre refusal to concede even singular, isolated points. You have been thinking this whole time to yourself &#8220;I can&#8217;t let a Trump supporter win&#8221; (maybe sub-consciously). I am not a Trump supporter. For your own sake, you should not let the Trump and the politics surrounding him get under your skin.</p>
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