Comments on: Worship Leaders Praise Trump Administration’s Work for Marginalized While the Administration Marginalizes More People

By: 2019 still here Ellie2

2019 still here Ellie2 — Fri, 13 Dec 2019 16:38:17 +0000

In reply to Headless Unicorn Guy. I read about that. I'm quite sure the Dominionists would like to have that ability, here, but the more "conservative" RCs just can't conceive of that idea, and think those guys are their friends.

By: Headless Unicorn Guy

Headless Unicorn Guy — Fri, 13 Dec 2019 16:32:28 +0000

In reply to 2019 still here Ellie2.

Like the definition of Persecution = “Not being permitted to persecute everyone else”?

Here’s the flip side of that in today’s Brazil, as “Evangelicos” come to outnumber Catholics:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/soldiers-of-jesus-armed-neo-pentecostals-torment-brazils-religious-minorities/2019/12/08/fd74de6e-fff0-11e9-8501-2a7123a38c58_story.html

By: Headless Unicorn Guy

Headless Unicorn Guy — Fri, 13 Dec 2019 16:30:02 +0000

In reply to OrthoAnabaptist.

In correspondence with the blogger Wondering Eagle, we have scratched our heads as to why Born-Again Bible-Believing Christians are among the most Fanatical of Trump Fanatics. Like they’ve Taken The Mark in bad Christian Apocalyptic. This link backs up his working hypothesis:

https://natesparks130.com/2016/03/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/

Money quote: Point 5 on the above page, first item under “The Ugly”.’

5. Denny Burk recently wrote a post describing his experience of attending a Donald Trump rally. While the description of events is disturbing, I am forced to wonder if those within the Neo-Calvinist camp realize Trump is a monster of their own creation.
Burk and company have built an empire on a theology of fear and antagonism. It is absolutely no surprise that the very people they have endeavored to control with fear now choose support a presidential candidate who amplifies the tactics of their own pastors/leaders.

The “Denny Burk” comment links to this page:

http://www.dennyburk.com/i-spent-super-tuesday-with-donald-trump/

Look at the image of God you get way too often from American Christians, from the inhuman determinism of the Calvinist God to the occult woo-woo of the Ultra-Charismatic Spiritual Warriors.

The Pious Piper writes and tweets about a Determinist God whose only goal is HIs Own Glory, whose only reason for existing is Glorifying God (no matter who gets hurt in the process). The Rapture Ready crowd gushes over a God who So Hated the World He’s about to send His Only Begotten Son to destroy it all and cast all except His Special Pets (guess who?) into Eternal Hell.

Like some sort of Arrested Development Narcissist with Power, always obsessed with Loyalty of his inferiors, casting thunderbolts down on any whim. (Remind you of anyone in the news?) Not even Zeus at this worst what that touchy.

When someone comes along who acts just like that God except more so, well, he must be More Godly(TM)! The Pastors who preached that thought THEY would be the one to fill those shoes. They groomed their pew peons over 40 years of Culture War, conditioned them to that axiom. They never dreamed someone would come along with a public persona more “Godly(TM)” than theirs…

https://hellochristian.com/article-image/2018/9780fed7225de93fb5acdd703d2dd44a/st-louis-billboard-suggests-president-trump-is-the-word-made-flesh-photo-facebook.jpg

By: OrthoAnabaptist

OrthoAnabaptist — Thu, 12 Dec 2019 22:28:31 +0000

Wow, you couldn’t get that much heresy and low, low bar christianism together in one room, any other way could you… not surprised to see (based on Andy Rowells list) so much of Bethel Redding… there con-you-all schtick is pretty much the same as trump’s con-man ethos.
A thought flitted through my brain today, and it goes like this; what if the whole mega-church, contemporary worship “rally” atmosphere is part of the perfect preparation for trumps arrival in these people’s world (who’ve been serving/steeped in this kind of public gathering all or most of their lives? What if trump is the new revivalist? Seeing/hearing trumpist christians talk, they seem to think we’re in a 3rd great awakening… it’s a very religious experience they’re having…

By: bluetah

bluetah — Thu, 12 Dec 2019 10:35:00 +0000

I remember David Brock’s book title, “Blinded By The Right”. In the book he described doing things like lying to sabotage Hilary Clinton’s reputation, and the reputations of other Liberals and Liberal ideas and policies. Brock was no evangelist- but now we see “Christian Faith Leaders” sinking even lower Mr. Brock ever did. He left out of conscience- can these preachers do the same?

By: 2019 still here Ellie2

2019 still here Ellie2 — Thu, 12 Dec 2019 07:39:27 +0000

I suppose it all depends on one’s definition of “marginalized.”

By: DoctorDJ

DoctorDJ — Wed, 11 Dec 2019 23:18:32 +0000

There will be such a backlash against American Evangelical “Christians” when this egomaniacal dementia patient is finally and forcibly removed from office… I’m giddy with anticipation! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/236c2dcdd180a6ed41420066f0e21490708ffd049d703c1bf693b45e202e3cab.gif

By: thatotherjean

thatotherjean — Wed, 11 Dec 2019 18:48:56 +0000

Gateway Church worship leaders are wilfully blind and deaf if they actually believe that Trump’s work with the “marginalized” does anything but make their condition worse. He is acting to cut 700,000 people off food stamps; there are still children in cages whose parents came seeking asylum in this country; poor women are being affected by the closing abortion clinics in a number of states–which provide low-cost, basic health care in addition to abortion services. . .and the list goes on, practically endlessly. As Rachel Maddow has cautioned repeatedly, “Watch what they do, not what they say.” Trump’s policies are designed to hurt people, no matter what he says.

By: Headless Unicorn Guy

Headless Unicorn Guy — Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:34:05 +0000

In reply to Jeff Ryan. Don't forget the example set from on high that what has been Forbidden is now Permitted.

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:21:57 +0000

In reply to ANGELINTERCEPTOR. Well, I am not an atheist; rather my Christian convictions lead me to try to have a proper regard for my own limitations! And I also believe that 'goodness' (being ultimately of God) is not limited to people of this or that religious persuasion (see those genuine acts of kindness and works of mercy performed by many Muslims and others!).