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	Comments on: Beth Moore Says &#8220;Let&#8217;s Move On&#8221;	</title>
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		By: War-El		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104470</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[War-El]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2019 10:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104438&quot;&gt;David Rahrer&lt;/a&gt;.

Worse, it is a literal reading of selected scriptures. What some would purport to be a &quot;literal&quot; reading of the most restrictive passage is contradicted within the very same letter of Paul!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104438">David Rahrer</a>.</p>
<p>Worse, it is a literal reading of selected scriptures. What some would purport to be a &#8220;literal&#8221; reading of the most restrictive passage is contradicted within the very same letter of Paul!</p>
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		By: Paula Southworth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula Southworth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2019 11:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104443&quot;&gt;DoctorDJ&lt;/a&gt;.

lol. Thank you for the concern DoctorDJ. I don&#039;t believe Mr. Stone comes to Washington state. Counting my blessings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104443">DoctorDJ</a>.</p>
<p>lol. Thank you for the concern DoctorDJ. I don&#8217;t believe Mr. Stone comes to Washington state. Counting my blessings.</p>
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		By: DoctorDJ		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104444</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DoctorDJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2019 23:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104427&quot;&gt;Paula Southworth&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for illustrating (once again) why closed-minded, fundamentalist, evangelical Christian dogma is fading into irrelevance. 

Can&#039;t happen soon enough!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104427">Paula Southworth</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for illustrating (once again) why closed-minded, fundamentalist, evangelical Christian dogma is fading into irrelevance. </p>
<p>Can&#8217;t happen soon enough!</p>
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		By: DoctorDJ		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104443</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DoctorDJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2019 23:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104434&quot;&gt;Paula Southworth&lt;/a&gt;.

(I thought you had joined Perry Stone&#039;s church!) https://youtu.be/XHCziK_pqNI?t=25]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104434">Paula Southworth</a>.</p>
<p>(I thought you had joined Perry Stone&#8217;s church!) <a href="https://youtu.be/XHCziK_pqNI?t=25" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/XHCziK_pqNI?t=25</a></p>
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		By: Chris Kratzer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104440</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Kratzer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2019 14:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Egos of John MacArthur and Donald Trump will come crashing down around them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Egos of John MacArthur and Donald Trump will come crashing down around them.</p>
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		By: Zoe_Brain		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104436</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoe_Brain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2019 05:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;  I have changed my perspective on many things over the years. &quot; - Warren Throckmorton

&quot; Well when events change, I change my mind. What do you do?&quot; - Paul Samuelson, attributed to John Maynard Keynes

The mark of an honest seeker of Truth, not coercing the evidence to make it say what they already know it has to say.

&quot;What seems plain is that Christians are supposed to get along and love one another&quot;

Non Christians too. Get along with Christians and non Christians alike, even to the extent of loving those who would see us dead.

There are a lot of those if one is Trans or Intersex, and they aren&#039;t retiscent about acting on their bloodthirsty desires.

No one said it was going to be easy. Just that we&#039;re  called on to do it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;  I have changed my perspective on many things over the years. &#8221; &#8211; Warren Throckmorton</p>
<p>&#8221; Well when events change, I change my mind. What do you do?&#8221; &#8211; Paul Samuelson, attributed to John Maynard Keynes</p>
<p>The mark of an honest seeker of Truth, not coercing the evidence to make it say what they already know it has to say.</p>
<p>&#8220;What seems plain is that Christians are supposed to get along and love one another&#8221;</p>
<p>Non Christians too. Get along with Christians and non Christians alike, even to the extent of loving those who would see us dead.</p>
<p>There are a lot of those if one is Trans or Intersex, and they aren&#8217;t retiscent about acting on their bloodthirsty desires.</p>
<p>No one said it was going to be easy. Just that we&#8217;re  called on to do it.</p>
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		By: David Rahrer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Rahrer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2019 03:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104406&quot;&gt;War-El&lt;/a&gt;.

Like so many other problems, it comes from a literal reading of the scriptures. Instead of dismissing this restriction as a product of the social mores of the day, it is made into a rigid commandment. Unfortunately, many people want black and white thinking like that because it does not require as much thinking, i.e. &quot;just following orders.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104406">War-El</a>.</p>
<p>Like so many other problems, it comes from a literal reading of the scriptures. Instead of dismissing this restriction as a product of the social mores of the day, it is made into a rigid commandment. Unfortunately, many people want black and white thinking like that because it does not require as much thinking, i.e. &#8220;just following orders.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Paula Southworth		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104434</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula Southworth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2019 00:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104431&quot;&gt;mirele&lt;/a&gt;.

Mirelle, I believe you&#039;ve switched the topic. Mrs.Moore and Mrs. White-Kahn have provenb lo  pre chi g, foor H th esworn. pit y y ey ha chef c check lo e for. G  Hithe  ewoe .  M.y spellcheck is wonky. Forgive the mess]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104431">mirele</a>.</p>
<p>Mirelle, I believe you&#8217;ve switched the topic. Mrs.Moore and Mrs. White-Kahn have provenb lo  pre chi g, foor H th esworn. pit y y ey ha chef c check lo e for. G  Hithe  ewoe .  M.y spellcheck is wonky. Forgive the mess</p>
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		By: mellowyellow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mellowyellow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2019 20:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104427&quot;&gt;Paula Southworth&lt;/a&gt;.

Except that they taught (preached) in home based churches, especially during the early period. Beth Moore&#039;s twitter posts have been a true blessing to thousands of people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104427">Paula Southworth</a>.</p>
<p>Except that they taught (preached) in home based churches, especially during the early period. Beth Moore&#8217;s twitter posts have been a true blessing to thousands of people.</p>
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		By: mirele		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mirele]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2019 20:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104427&quot;&gt;Paula Southworth&lt;/a&gt;.

Uhm, then you&#039;d still never know about the Resurrection, Paula. Jesus first appeared to Mary Magdalene and told her to go to the disciples. I&#039;m thinking that had he really wanted to make it clear that it was only men who could proclaim the good news, he could have worked it out so that some guy saw him first. But no, it was a woman. 



I&#039;d also point out that &quot;soundness of the Bible&quot; really means NOTHING when the Bible is used to oppress people. There were many scholars, such as R.L. Dabney, who were superstars of the Southern Baptists in the Civil War period, but who believed the Bible absolutely taught chattel ownership of Africans. We fought a war over that and slavery is illegal (for the most part, with the exception of the imposed slavery of prison work) in the USA under the 13th Amendment. It&#039;s still in the Bible, but it&#039;s illegal today. 



If we can change our minds on that, we can certainly change our minds on whether Roman family codes should be how we treat women. And, in point of fact, the law *has* changed that. Women are no longer property of fathers, husbands, brothers or sons. 



Jesus did not live among us so people like John MacArthur and you can use the Bible as a tool to oppress half humanity. It&#039;s nonsense like this that makes it for sure that the only time I&#039;ll appear outside of a church is when I&#039;m protesting child sexual abuse or some other outrage covered up by the Evangelical Industrial Complex.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/10/25/beth-moore-says-lets-move-on/#comment-104427">Paula Southworth</a>.</p>
<p>Uhm, then you&#8217;d still never know about the Resurrection, Paula. Jesus first appeared to Mary Magdalene and told her to go to the disciples. I&#8217;m thinking that had he really wanted to make it clear that it was only men who could proclaim the good news, he could have worked it out so that some guy saw him first. But no, it was a woman. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d also point out that &#8220;soundness of the Bible&#8221; really means NOTHING when the Bible is used to oppress people. There were many scholars, such as R.L. Dabney, who were superstars of the Southern Baptists in the Civil War period, but who believed the Bible absolutely taught chattel ownership of Africans. We fought a war over that and slavery is illegal (for the most part, with the exception of the imposed slavery of prison work) in the USA under the 13th Amendment. It&#8217;s still in the Bible, but it&#8217;s illegal today. </p>
<p>If we can change our minds on that, we can certainly change our minds on whether Roman family codes should be how we treat women. And, in point of fact, the law *has* changed that. Women are no longer property of fathers, husbands, brothers or sons. </p>
<p>Jesus did not live among us so people like John MacArthur and you can use the Bible as a tool to oppress half humanity. It&#8217;s nonsense like this that makes it for sure that the only time I&#8217;ll appear outside of a church is when I&#8217;m protesting child sexual abuse or some other outrage covered up by the Evangelical Industrial Complex.</p>
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