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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2019 14:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103454&quot;&gt;Headless Unicorn Guy&lt;/a&gt;.

Indeed it was!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103454">Headless Unicorn Guy</a>.</p>
<p>Indeed it was!</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Sep 2019 07:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103440&quot;&gt;ken&lt;/a&gt;.

Theresa May set the scene (maybe unwittingly - but that would not excuse her folly, given that is capable of reading history) by &#039;feeding the fascists&#039; with red lines and deadlines instead of proposing a sensible way forward at the outset of her premiership.  IMHO, she has a lot to answer for ...


(Let us not forget that one of her &#039;special contributions&#039; was the promotion of a - and I quote - &quot;hostile environment&quot; for immigrants during her tenure as Secretary of State at the Home Office.  She may have voted Remain - probably because she thought she would be on the winning side - but, when it comes to her attitude, she has much in common with hard right leavers.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103440">ken</a>.</p>
<p>Theresa May set the scene (maybe unwittingly &#8211; but that would not excuse her folly, given that is capable of reading history) by &#8216;feeding the fascists&#8217; with red lines and deadlines instead of proposing a sensible way forward at the outset of her premiership.  IMHO, she has a lot to answer for &#8230;</p>
<p>(Let us not forget that one of her &#8216;special contributions&#8217; was the promotion of a &#8211; and I quote &#8211; &#8220;hostile environment&#8221; for immigrants during her tenure as Secretary of State at the Home Office.  She may have voted Remain &#8211; probably because she thought she would be on the winning side &#8211; but, when it comes to her attitude, she has much in common with hard right leavers.)</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103460</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2019 15:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103448&quot;&gt;mirele&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Mirele.  I try my best ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103448">mirele</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Mirele.  I try my best &#8230;</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103459</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2019 15:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103455&quot;&gt;Headless Unicorn Guy&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ll pass on that, thanks!  ;-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103455">Headless Unicorn Guy</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll pass on that, thanks!  😉</p>
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		By: Tacitus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tacitus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2019 13:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103441&quot;&gt;David Rahrer&lt;/a&gt;.

Unless reinstated, the MPs will be deselected and new (presumably pro-hard Brexit) candidates will replace them in the next election. Presumably, Johnson believes it&#039;s the only way for him to regain a working majority to push Brexit through, assuming he gets his wish for a snap election.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103441">David Rahrer</a>.</p>
<p>Unless reinstated, the MPs will be deselected and new (presumably pro-hard Brexit) candidates will replace them in the next election. Presumably, Johnson believes it&#8217;s the only way for him to regain a working majority to push Brexit through, assuming he gets his wish for a snap election.</p>
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		By: Headless Unicorn Guy		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103455</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Headless Unicorn Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2019 11:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103416&quot;&gt;Richard Willmer&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Or you can take the Red Pill, and find out just how deep the Rabbit Hole goes...&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103416">Richard Willmer</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Or you can take the Red Pill, and find out just how deep the Rabbit Hole goes&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		By: Headless Unicorn Guy		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103454</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Headless Unicorn Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2019 11:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wasn&#039;t the last guy to arbitrarily suspend Parliament named Charles the First?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t the last guy to arbitrarily suspend Parliament named Charles the First?</p>
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		By: mirele		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103448</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mirele]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2019 10:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice work, Richard!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work, Richard!</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103444</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2019 07:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103440&quot;&gt;ken&lt;/a&gt;.

It is certainly impossible for anyone else to agree with him, as it is never clear with what one is being asked to agree.  Johnson, like Trump, is extraordinarily capricious.




Part of me wants to wait a couple of months for an election.  Assuming the European Union (Withdrawal) (No. 6) Bill becomes law, BJ would be forced either to climb down over 31 October, or to act illegally.  Then what he is about would become crystal clear.




Incidentally, to anyone buying the Johnson line that leaving the EU without a deal is somehow democratic, I would say many things!  Here are IMO the two most important (in reverse order of importance):-

2. The &#039;victorious&#039; VOTE LEAVE manifesto clearly envisaged there being a deal;

1. Leaving with no deal would put in doubt the rights of hundreds of thousands of UK residents, and removing or threatening people&#039;s legitimate rights is NEVER &#039;democratic&#039;.




Here&#039;s what VOTE LEAVE proposed by way what leaving should mean: http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/briefing_newdeal.html
(Note &quot;Safety first&quot; and &quot;No need to rush&quot;, etc)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103440">ken</a>.</p>
<p>It is certainly impossible for anyone else to agree with him, as it is never clear with what one is being asked to agree.  Johnson, like Trump, is extraordinarily capricious.</p>
<p>Part of me wants to wait a couple of months for an election.  Assuming the European Union (Withdrawal) (No. 6) Bill becomes law, BJ would be forced either to climb down over 31 October, or to act illegally.  Then what he is about would become crystal clear.</p>
<p>Incidentally, to anyone buying the Johnson line that leaving the EU without a deal is somehow democratic, I would say many things!  Here are IMO the two most important (in reverse order of importance):-</p>
<p>2. The &#8216;victorious&#8217; VOTE LEAVE manifesto clearly envisaged there being a deal;</p>
<p>1. Leaving with no deal would put in doubt the rights of hundreds of thousands of UK residents, and removing or threatening people&#8217;s legitimate rights is NEVER &#8216;democratic&#8217;.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what VOTE LEAVE proposed by way what leaving should mean: <a href="http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/briefing_newdeal.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/briefing_newdeal.html</a><br />
(Note &#8220;Safety first&#8221; and &#8220;No need to rush&#8221;, etc)</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2019 04:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103441&quot;&gt;David Rahrer&lt;/a&gt;.

No need on my part to correct you, David!  As far as I know, you are &#039;spot on&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/09/02/richard-willmer-view-from-the-uk-parliament-protests/#comment-103441">David Rahrer</a>.</p>
<p>No need on my part to correct you, David!  As far as I know, you are &#8216;spot on&#8217;.</p>
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