Comments on: The Family: Doug Coe’s 1989 Sermon to the Navigators – Jesus Demands Total Commitment https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/08/13/the-family-doug-coes-1989-sermon-to-the-navigators-jesus-demands-total-commitment/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Thu, 15 Aug 2019 16:08:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: Headless Unicorn Guy https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/08/13/the-family-doug-coes-1989-sermon-to-the-navigators-jesus-demands-total-commitment/#comment-103302 Thu, 15 Aug 2019 16:08:44 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=34961#comment-103302 In reply to bobo.

Giving comfort to those people has consequences.

Including getting to sit at their Right Hand.

]]> By: RustbeltRick https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/08/13/the-family-doug-coes-1989-sermon-to-the-navigators-jesus-demands-total-commitment/#comment-103288 Wed, 14 Aug 2019 10:37:19 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=34961#comment-103288 “. . . he doesn’t ask for the audience to pray for Bush to pursue certain policy goals (e.g., end abortion, appoint judges), but instead to make godly decisions. While Coe might have had preferences, he did not seem as interested in specific policy outcomes as the current crop of evangelical leaders surrounding Trump.”

But we all know what the “godly decisions” are, don’t we? Pursue a small-government, pro-business, anti-labor agenda, with a veneer of faith added on to neuter critics. As people like Jeff Sharlet and Kevin Kruse have documented so well, all of these major figures (Navigators, The Fellowship, Billy Graham) are notable for being reactions to New Deal progressivism. Kruse especially documents the Christian libertarian concepts that were incorporated into the various discipleship and educational materials of so many evangelical groups, and it continues just as strong today.

]]> By: bobo https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/08/13/the-family-doug-coes-1989-sermon-to-the-navigators-jesus-demands-total-commitment/#comment-103285 Tue, 13 Aug 2019 22:12:36 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=34961#comment-103285 Thank you for posting this and these videos. I am suspicious about the effect of “The Fellowship” on DC but it doesn’t seem like Doug Coe was a particularly nefarious figure. But power seduces everybody successful in this world, and certainly seduced Coe. There is an inherent insidiousness in The Fellowship’s mission to proffer a morally diluted type of Christianity to amoral elites. Giving comfort to those people has consequences.

]]> By: Headless Unicorn Guy https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/08/13/the-family-doug-coes-1989-sermon-to-the-navigators-jesus-demands-total-commitment/#comment-103284 Tue, 13 Aug 2019 17:24:35 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=34961#comment-103284 NAVIGATORS.
When I was at Cal Poly Pomona in the Seventies, The Navigators had a reputation for the highest burnout and flunkout rates of any on-campus Christian group.

J Michael Jones (formerly “The Christian Monist” and author of Butterflies in the Belfry, Serpents in the Cellar was one of those Nav burnouts. The Nav’s Total Commitment demands (worthy of a CULT) almost drove him to suicide.

To me, the Navs are a CULT. The only difference is that like the “Fellowship” that messed up my head in the early Seventies, the Navs have “Correct Theology” — Fundaglical. And Christianese Cult Sniffers (also Fundagelical) define CULT entirely by Theology and Doctrine, Not Repeat Not Abusive Controlling Behavior.

]]> By: Richard Willmer https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/08/13/the-family-doug-coes-1989-sermon-to-the-navigators-jesus-demands-total-commitment/#comment-103282 Tue, 13 Aug 2019 10:29:03 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=34961#comment-103282 “While Coe might have had preferences, he did not seem as interested in
specific policy outcomes as the current crop of evangelical leaders
surrounding Trump.”

… which is more consistent with “Thy will be done”.

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