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	Comments on: Mark Driscoll: The Five Points of Calvinism are Garbage	</title>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2020 23:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/07/11/mark-driscoll-five-points-of-calvinism-is-garbage/#comment-105413&quot;&gt;D.M.S.&lt;/a&gt;.

No - God needs nothing

Yes - Jesus needed a mother

Any reason for your question, by the way?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/07/11/mark-driscoll-five-points-of-calvinism-is-garbage/#comment-105413">D.M.S.</a>.</p>
<p>No &#8211; God needs nothing</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; Jesus needed a mother</p>
<p>Any reason for your question, by the way?</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2020 19:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/07/11/mark-driscoll-five-points-of-calvinism-is-garbage/#comment-105413&quot;&gt;D.M.S.&lt;/a&gt;.

No - God needs nothing

Yes - Jesus needed a mother

Any reason for your question, by the way?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/07/11/mark-driscoll-five-points-of-calvinism-is-garbage/#comment-105413">D.M.S.</a>.</p>
<p>No &#8211; God needs nothing</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; Jesus needed a mother</p>
<p>Any reason for your question, by the way?</p>
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		By: The Canberean		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/07/11/mark-driscoll-five-points-of-calvinism-is-garbage/#comment-106572</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Canberean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2020 07:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow I&#039;d forgotten how good he was as a communicator. Scary really.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow I&#8217;d forgotten how good he was as a communicator. Scary really.</p>
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		By: Tsc Admin		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/07/11/mark-driscoll-five-points-of-calvinism-is-garbage/#comment-106515</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tsc Admin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2020 12:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/07/11/mark-driscoll-five-points-of-calvinism-is-garbage/#comment-106511&quot;&gt;Travis&lt;/a&gt;.

Moses didn&#039;t have a Bible and was able to receive all the revelation he needed from God directly.  Surely post-Pentecost we should be like him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/07/11/mark-driscoll-five-points-of-calvinism-is-garbage/#comment-106511">Travis</a>.</p>
<p>Moses didn&#8217;t have a Bible and was able to receive all the revelation he needed from God directly.  Surely post-Pentecost we should be like him.</p>
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		By: Travis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Travis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2020 18:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/07/11/mark-driscoll-five-points-of-calvinism-is-garbage/#comment-102667&quot;&gt;Tsc Admin&lt;/a&gt;.

TSC Moses wrote the first five books of the bible he wrote lots of doctrine and theology, who do you think told him what to write? God did. Also Jesus held up the scrolls of mosses and said that Mosses wrote about him but because they didn&#039;t believe what Moses wrote how could they believe him:) I think where MD went wrong as did allot of leaders in the young restless and reformed movement they did not treat the bible with the reverence and holiness it demands instead of sola scripture they became the the cool way the new way and became publishing machines the focus was them. The bible is all the authority we need and it discerns what God reveals about himself and us very clearly. We can trust it to lead us in truth. MD and those of the charismatic progressive movement put the themselves above God and teach God and his word cannot be trusted. I hope MD repents so he can have peace with God.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/07/11/mark-driscoll-five-points-of-calvinism-is-garbage/#comment-102667">Tsc Admin</a>.</p>
<p>TSC Moses wrote the first five books of the bible he wrote lots of doctrine and theology, who do you think told him what to write? God did. Also Jesus held up the scrolls of mosses and said that Mosses wrote about him but because they didn&#8217;t believe what Moses wrote how could they believe him:) I think where MD went wrong as did allot of leaders in the young restless and reformed movement they did not treat the bible with the reverence and holiness it demands instead of sola scripture they became the the cool way the new way and became publishing machines the focus was them. The bible is all the authority we need and it discerns what God reveals about himself and us very clearly. We can trust it to lead us in truth. MD and those of the charismatic progressive movement put the themselves above God and teach God and his word cannot be trusted. I hope MD repents so he can have peace with God.</p>
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		By: Travis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2020 14:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mark spent a long time and many sermons and published books using the bible to tell us how wrong the teaching of the charismatic movement , Arminianism and emergent/progressive religions were and now he is joining them. All I can say is repent Mark, Repent and find peace with true Jesus Christ.  Stop the gimmicks, stop the flip flopping.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark spent a long time and many sermons and published books using the bible to tell us how wrong the teaching of the charismatic movement , Arminianism and emergent/progressive religions were and now he is joining them. All I can say is repent Mark, Repent and find peace with true Jesus Christ.  Stop the gimmicks, stop the flip flopping.</p>
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		By: D.M.S.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D.M.S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2019 23:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/07/11/mark-driscoll-five-points-of-calvinism-is-garbage/#comment-102611&quot;&gt;Richard Willmer&lt;/a&gt;.

Does God/Jesus need humans?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/07/11/mark-driscoll-five-points-of-calvinism-is-garbage/#comment-102611">Richard Willmer</a>.</p>
<p>Does God/Jesus need humans?</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/07/11/mark-driscoll-five-points-of-calvinism-is-garbage/#comment-104452</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2019 19:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/07/11/mark-driscoll-five-points-of-calvinism-is-garbage/#comment-104361&quot;&gt;ken&lt;/a&gt;.

Good point, Ken.
Much of the stuff out there on the &#039;religious right&#039; is really a kind of culturally-bound &#039;contract religion&#039; (all too often involving its adherents subsidizing private jets, mansions etc.): believe what you are told to believe, follow the rules, cough up the dosh ... and you&#039;ll &#039;be blessed&#039;, and ultimately get to heaven.
Certainly nothing like Christianity as I understand it ...

I would want to stress, though, that what I have said above should in no way be understood as any kind of moral judgement on adherents of these &#039;contract religions&#039;.  It would be entirely wrong to speculate on whether such adherents &#039;get to heaven&#039; or &#039;are consigned to hell&#039; - &quot;Who am I to judge?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/07/11/mark-driscoll-five-points-of-calvinism-is-garbage/#comment-104361">ken</a>.</p>
<p>Good point, Ken.<br />
Much of the stuff out there on the &#8216;religious right&#8217; is really a kind of culturally-bound &#8216;contract religion&#8217; (all too often involving its adherents subsidizing private jets, mansions etc.): believe what you are told to believe, follow the rules, cough up the dosh &#8230; and you&#8217;ll &#8216;be blessed&#8217;, and ultimately get to heaven.<br />
Certainly nothing like Christianity as I understand it &#8230;</p>
<p>I would want to stress, though, that what I have said above should in no way be understood as any kind of moral judgement on adherents of these &#8216;contract religions&#8217;.  It would be entirely wrong to speculate on whether such adherents &#8216;get to heaven&#8217; or &#8216;are consigned to hell&#8217; &#8211; &#8220;Who am I to judge?&#8221;</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Oct 2019 08:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/07/11/mark-driscoll-five-points-of-calvinism-is-garbage/#comment-104349&quot;&gt;David Rahrer&lt;/a&gt;.

Maybe.  I think it is probably someone with a very rigid point of view who thinks everyone else should think exactly as he (I suspect our alleged troll is [white and] male) does.  I note his dismissal of &quot;The Shack&quot;: Octavia Spencer&#039;s portrayal of God the Father is actually very moving.  It would be great if he were to listen to what the character says rather than &#039;get the hump&#039; over gender and skin colour.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/07/11/mark-driscoll-five-points-of-calvinism-is-garbage/#comment-104349">David Rahrer</a>.</p>
<p>Maybe.  I think it is probably someone with a very rigid point of view who thinks everyone else should think exactly as he (I suspect our alleged troll is [white and] male) does.  I note his dismissal of &#8220;The Shack&#8221;: Octavia Spencer&#8217;s portrayal of God the Father is actually very moving.  It would be great if he were to listen to what the character says rather than &#8216;get the hump&#8217; over gender and skin colour.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Oct 2019 08:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/07/11/mark-driscoll-five-points-of-calvinism-is-garbage/#comment-104351&quot;&gt;disqus_5T2jXBEN10&lt;/a&gt;.

I can see how someone with an approach like yours would convert a lot of people.  Just not to christianity.]]></description>
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<p>I can see how someone with an approach like yours would convert a lot of people.  Just not to christianity.</p>
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