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	Comments on: Was Mark Driscoll Disqualified or Not?	</title>
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		By: Rachel Ramey		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/06/23/was-mark-driscoll-disqualified-or-not/#comment-102781</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2019 17:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[//Remember, Driscoll once told his communications staff that he was the brand. //

Yikes. This is just bad news.  If your Church&#039;s &quot;brand&quot; is a person, that is destined to end poorly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//Remember, Driscoll once told his communications staff that he was the brand. //</p>
<p>Yikes. This is just bad news.  If your Church&#8217;s &#8220;brand&#8221; is a person, that is destined to end poorly.</p>
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		By: Tsc Admin		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/06/23/was-mark-driscoll-disqualified-or-not/#comment-102315</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2019 13:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/06/23/was-mark-driscoll-disqualified-or-not/#comment-102238&quot;&gt;Living Liminal&lt;/a&gt;.

I consider the problem intrinsic to organized religion itself.  By their fruit shall ye know them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/06/23/was-mark-driscoll-disqualified-or-not/#comment-102238">Living Liminal</a>.</p>
<p>I consider the problem intrinsic to organized religion itself.  By their fruit shall ye know them.</p>
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		By: Tsc Admin		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/06/23/was-mark-driscoll-disqualified-or-not/#comment-102316</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2019 13:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/06/23/was-mark-driscoll-disqualified-or-not/#comment-102238&quot;&gt;Living Liminal&lt;/a&gt;.

I consider the problem intrinsic to organized religion itself.  By their fruit shall ye know them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/06/23/was-mark-driscoll-disqualified-or-not/#comment-102238">Living Liminal</a>.</p>
<p>I consider the problem intrinsic to organized religion itself.  By their fruit shall ye know them.</p>
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		By: Mr Jesperson		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/06/23/was-mark-driscoll-disqualified-or-not/#comment-102265</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr Jesperson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2019 13:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These white-washed septic tanks just have an unquenchable lust for power, with plenty of greed as well.  It should come as no surprise that sons of the Devil like Driscoll would rather play king to a small little church than serve others.  This is the opposite of the attitude of Jesus Christ.  Beyond that I have always been curious how Warren started covering the whole Mars Hill Debacle.  So it was the plagiarism that drew you into covering this and led to insiders fed up with the situation leaking all those internal documents?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These white-washed septic tanks just have an unquenchable lust for power, with plenty of greed as well.  It should come as no surprise that sons of the Devil like Driscoll would rather play king to a small little church than serve others.  This is the opposite of the attitude of Jesus Christ.  Beyond that I have always been curious how Warren started covering the whole Mars Hill Debacle.  So it was the plagiarism that drew you into covering this and led to insiders fed up with the situation leaking all those internal documents?</p>
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		By: BDK		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/06/23/was-mark-driscoll-disqualified-or-not/#comment-102252</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BDK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Apparently Driscoll and Mars Hill had their own, unique understanding of 1 Timothy 3:1-7 and Titus 1:6-9? Or, rather perhaps they just conveniently ignored Scripture if it would not support or it got in the way of the MH Business Empire! Very sad the complete lack of integrity and character displayed by Driscoll and the MH Elders!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently Driscoll and Mars Hill had their own, unique understanding of 1 Timothy 3:1-7 and Titus 1:6-9? Or, rather perhaps they just conveniently ignored Scripture if it would not support or it got in the way of the MH Business Empire! Very sad the complete lack of integrity and character displayed by Driscoll and the MH Elders!</p>
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		By: thatotherjean		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/06/23/was-mark-driscoll-disqualified-or-not/#comment-102248</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s from John Milton&#039;s _Paradise Lost_, not the Bible, but &quot;Better to reign in hell than to serve in Heaven.&quot; fits Mark Driscoll&#039;s attitude, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s from John Milton&#8217;s _Paradise Lost_, not the Bible, but &#8220;Better to reign in hell than to serve in Heaven.&#8221; fits Mark Driscoll&#8217;s attitude, too.</p>
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		By: Jessica		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/06/23/was-mark-driscoll-disqualified-or-not/#comment-102246</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jessica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 03:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mark Driscoll not only WAS disqualified from ministry--he IS disqualified from ministry (like his partner-in-crime James MacDonald). Unfortunate that neither the Mars Hills Elder Board nor the Harvest Bible Chapel Elder Board used &quot;DQ&quot;. It speaks to the Elders&#039; lack of discernment--and to their fear. My guess is that it may have something to do with a legal agreement. Someone needs to get a hold of the contracts that Elders sign with these celebrity megachurch pastors. 

Speaking of the Driscoll/JMac bromance, what happened to the money from their &quot;joint venture&quot; Churches Helping Churches? No one knows, and the IRS for sure needs to investigative.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Driscoll not only WAS disqualified from ministry&#8211;he IS disqualified from ministry (like his partner-in-crime James MacDonald). Unfortunate that neither the Mars Hills Elder Board nor the Harvest Bible Chapel Elder Board used &#8220;DQ&#8221;. It speaks to the Elders&#8217; lack of discernment&#8211;and to their fear. My guess is that it may have something to do with a legal agreement. Someone needs to get a hold of the contracts that Elders sign with these celebrity megachurch pastors. </p>
<p>Speaking of the Driscoll/JMac bromance, what happened to the money from their &#8220;joint venture&#8221; Churches Helping Churches? No one knows, and the IRS for sure needs to investigative.</p>
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		By: Jessica		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jessica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2019 23:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mark Driscoll not only WAS disqualified from ministry--he IS disqualified from ministry (like his partner-in- crime James MacDonald). Unfortunate that neither the Mars Hills Elder Board nor the Harvest Bible Chapel Elder Board used &quot;DQ&quot;. Speaks to the Elders lack of discernment and fear. My guess is that it has to do with a legal agreement. Someone needs to get a hold of the contracts that Elders sign with these celebrity megachurch pastors. 

Speaking of the Driscoll/JMac bromance, what happened to the money from their &quot;joint venture&quot; Churches Helping Churches&quot;? No one knows, and the IRS for sure needs to investigative.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Driscoll not only WAS disqualified from ministry&#8211;he IS disqualified from ministry (like his partner-in- crime James MacDonald). Unfortunate that neither the Mars Hills Elder Board nor the Harvest Bible Chapel Elder Board used &#8220;DQ&#8221;. Speaks to the Elders lack of discernment and fear. My guess is that it has to do with a legal agreement. Someone needs to get a hold of the contracts that Elders sign with these celebrity megachurch pastors. </p>
<p>Speaking of the Driscoll/JMac bromance, what happened to the money from their &#8220;joint venture&#8221; Churches Helping Churches&#8221;? No one knows, and the IRS for sure needs to investigative.</p>
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		By: Richard N Mirna Sandbrook		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/06/23/was-mark-driscoll-disqualified-or-not/#comment-102243</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard N Mirna Sandbrook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2019 22:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder if Driscoll ever preached on Philippians 2:1-11 ?

Him and those like him appear to be all about self, ego, and pride.

“Therefore if there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if there is any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and compassion, make my joy complete by being of the same mind, maintaining the same love, united in spirit, intent on one purpose. Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind regard one another as more important than yourselves; do not merely look out for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others. Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”‭‭PHILIPPIANS‬ ‭2:1-11‬ ‭NASB‬‬
https://www.bible.com/100/php.2.1-11.nasb]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Driscoll ever preached on Philippians 2:1-11 ?</p>
<p>Him and those like him appear to be all about self, ego, and pride.</p>
<p>“Therefore if there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if there is any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and compassion, make my joy complete by being of the same mind, maintaining the same love, united in spirit, intent on one purpose. Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind regard one another as more important than yourselves; do not merely look out for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others. Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”‭‭PHILIPPIANS‬ ‭2:1-11‬ ‭NASB‬‬<br />
<a href="https://www.bible.com/100/php.2.1-11.nasb" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.bible.com/100/php.2.1-11.nasb</a></p>
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		By: Living Liminal		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Living Liminal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2019 20:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was stunned when I first started following the whole Driscoll train wreck, because it so closely resembled the church situation I had just come out of. Different country, different theology, but exactly the same MO.

Since then I have learned how prevalent this bullying, authoritarian type of &#039;leadership&#039; is in christian circles. I&#039;ve also realised how commonly this scenario is, and how repetitively it plays out. If you can&#039;t gain (or you lose) ultimate authority where you are, simply move and start another church where you can.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was stunned when I first started following the whole Driscoll train wreck, because it so closely resembled the church situation I had just come out of. Different country, different theology, but exactly the same MO.</p>
<p>Since then I have learned how prevalent this bullying, authoritarian type of &#8216;leadership&#8217; is in christian circles. I&#8217;ve also realised how commonly this scenario is, and how repetitively it plays out. If you can&#8217;t gain (or you lose) ultimate authority where you are, simply move and start another church where you can.</p>
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