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		By: David Rahrer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2019 18:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/05/09/jordan-peterson-and-toxic-masculinity/#comment-104180&quot;&gt;Zahi&lt;/a&gt;.

Big words? To what are you responding?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/05/09/jordan-peterson-and-toxic-masculinity/#comment-104180">Zahi</a>.</p>
<p>Big words? To what are you responding?</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2019 07:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/05/09/jordan-peterson-and-toxic-masculinity/#comment-104180&quot;&gt;Zahi&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;from a guy who literally gives zero backup arguments to any of the enormous claims he makes.&quot;


that is because Jeff was writing a blog post not a book.  If you wanted more information about his sources you should ask him for them, not just assume he doesn&#039;t have them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/05/09/jordan-peterson-and-toxic-masculinity/#comment-104180">Zahi</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;from a guy who literally gives zero backup arguments to any of the enormous claims he makes.&#8221;</p>
<p>that is because Jeff was writing a blog post not a book.  If you wanted more information about his sources you should ask him for them, not just assume he doesn&#8217;t have them.</p>
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		By: Zahi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2019 06:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/05/09/jordan-peterson-and-toxic-masculinity/#comment-101474&quot;&gt;Jeff Ryan&lt;/a&gt;.

I hope that the 8 likes you got didn&#039;t encourage you to assume that you are actually more correct than Peterson yourself, in your own views. A lot of assumptions and big talk coming from a guy who literally gives zero backup arguments to any of the enormous claims he makes. At least Peterson goes to great lengths to attempt to clarify and explain himself. What he says is researched and backed up by decades of studies and practical experience in the topics that he discusses and in which you describe him as being a &quot;despot&quot;, &quot;misguided&quot;, &quot;ignorant&quot; and the list goes on. Whether he is right or wrong is both his prerogative and the reality of doing research; sometimes you&#039;re wrong, other times you&#039;re right. That&#039;s the rule of the game.

So much talk about &quot;understanding of reality&quot; and &quot;eons that have gone into our formation&quot;, &quot;chaos&quot;, &quot;systems and complexity&quot; and more, but no explanation, no arguments, not even a definition of these big words you so loosely use; nothing to accommodate a constructive debate. Just a closed door upon another. 
No, instead you opt for the easy way out, call your opponent by silly names, forward loose ideas and then snuggle up in bed as you accumulate hive mind internet points thinking you&#039;ve become smarter, shared knowledge and are a constructive citizen.

No wonder Democrats lost the election. I suggest you learn both to look outside and in with a more critical eye and mind. You&#039;re stuck in your own ideas with your own people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/05/09/jordan-peterson-and-toxic-masculinity/#comment-101474">Jeff Ryan</a>.</p>
<p>I hope that the 8 likes you got didn&#8217;t encourage you to assume that you are actually more correct than Peterson yourself, in your own views. A lot of assumptions and big talk coming from a guy who literally gives zero backup arguments to any of the enormous claims he makes. At least Peterson goes to great lengths to attempt to clarify and explain himself. What he says is researched and backed up by decades of studies and practical experience in the topics that he discusses and in which you describe him as being a &#8220;despot&#8221;, &#8220;misguided&#8221;, &#8220;ignorant&#8221; and the list goes on. Whether he is right or wrong is both his prerogative and the reality of doing research; sometimes you&#8217;re wrong, other times you&#8217;re right. That&#8217;s the rule of the game.</p>
<p>So much talk about &#8220;understanding of reality&#8221; and &#8220;eons that have gone into our formation&#8221;, &#8220;chaos&#8221;, &#8220;systems and complexity&#8221; and more, but no explanation, no arguments, not even a definition of these big words you so loosely use; nothing to accommodate a constructive debate. Just a closed door upon another.<br />
No, instead you opt for the easy way out, call your opponent by silly names, forward loose ideas and then snuggle up in bed as you accumulate hive mind internet points thinking you&#8217;ve become smarter, shared knowledge and are a constructive citizen.</p>
<p>No wonder Democrats lost the election. I suggest you learn both to look outside and in with a more critical eye and mind. You&#8217;re stuck in your own ideas with your own people.</p>
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		By: Zahi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2019 05:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/05/09/jordan-peterson-and-toxic-masculinity/#comment-101525&quot;&gt;sam80&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly the type of Peterson haters you&#039;d expect. Assumptions, no due process, conclusions based on whims and impulses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/05/09/jordan-peterson-and-toxic-masculinity/#comment-101525">sam80</a>.</p>
<p>Exactly the type of Peterson haters you&#8217;d expect. Assumptions, no due process, conclusions based on whims and impulses.</p>
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		By: Tsc Admin		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/05/09/jordan-peterson-and-toxic-masculinity/#comment-101732</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2019 15:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/05/09/jordan-peterson-and-toxic-masculinity/#comment-101731&quot;&gt;bluetah&lt;/a&gt;.

I suppose one chooses one&#039;s ignorances.  I much prefer to not have the kind that thinks I alone think rationally and all who disagree with me are irrational, since in that state I cannot change, learn, or grow.  Which is what saying &quot;I just follow the facts&quot; indicates.  It&#039;s very closed-minded thinking and egregiously uncivilized.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/05/09/jordan-peterson-and-toxic-masculinity/#comment-101731">bluetah</a>.</p>
<p>I suppose one chooses one&#8217;s ignorances.  I much prefer to not have the kind that thinks I alone think rationally and all who disagree with me are irrational, since in that state I cannot change, learn, or grow.  Which is what saying &#8220;I just follow the facts&#8221; indicates.  It&#8217;s very closed-minded thinking and egregiously uncivilized.</p>
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