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		By: John Campbell		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/03/28/interview-with-steve-hassan-on-dominionism/#comment-100839&quot;&gt;J.E.&lt;/a&gt;.

It is much more helpful in discussions with those in the NAR to use the more precise term which they readily accept, being the &quot;apostolic-prophetic&quot;  movement. NAR carries negative connotations in their mind these past few years so those like Dr. Brown will reject that label in public now. He is however their main apologist to the mainline Evangelical world. The International Coalition of Apostolic Leaders (ICAL) and United States Coalition of Apostolic Leaders, (USACL) are the outgrowth of what they themselves use to  term: NAR. From NAR of 20 years ago,  to ICAL &amp; USACL  as the name today,  there were one or two other marketing name changes in the past decade. But they are all the same people just using different names for the apostolic prophetic movements prime organization of ICAL and USACL. (These two are basically the same just different &quot;spheres.&quot;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/03/28/interview-with-steve-hassan-on-dominionism/#comment-100839">J.E.</a>.</p>
<p>It is much more helpful in discussions with those in the NAR to use the more precise term which they readily accept, being the &#8220;apostolic-prophetic&#8221;  movement. NAR carries negative connotations in their mind these past few years so those like Dr. Brown will reject that label in public now. He is however their main apologist to the mainline Evangelical world. The International Coalition of Apostolic Leaders (ICAL) and United States Coalition of Apostolic Leaders, (USACL) are the outgrowth of what they themselves use to  term: NAR. From NAR of 20 years ago,  to ICAL &#038; USACL  as the name today,  there were one or two other marketing name changes in the past decade. But they are all the same people just using different names for the apostolic prophetic movements prime organization of ICAL and USACL. (These two are basically the same just different &#8220;spheres.&#8221;)</p>
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		By: John Campbell		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/03/28/interview-with-steve-hassan-on-dominionism/#comment-100839&quot;&gt;J.E.&lt;/a&gt;.

It is much more helpful in discussions with those in the NAR to use the more precise term which they readily accept, being the &quot;apostolic-prophetic&quot;  movement. NAR carries negative connotations in their mind these past few years so those like Dr. Brown will reject that label in public now. He is however their main apologist to the mainline Evangelical world. The International Coalition of Apostolic Leaders (ICAL) and United States Coalition of Apostolic Leaders, (USACL) are the outgrowth of what they themselves use to  term: NAR. From NAR of 20 years ago,  to ICAL &amp; USACL  as the name today,  there were one or two other marketing name changes in the past decade. But they are all the same people just using different names for the apostolic prophetic movements prime organization of ICAL and USACL. (These two are basically the same just different &quot;spheres.&quot;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/03/28/interview-with-steve-hassan-on-dominionism/#comment-100839">J.E.</a>.</p>
<p>It is much more helpful in discussions with those in the NAR to use the more precise term which they readily accept, being the &#8220;apostolic-prophetic&#8221;  movement. NAR carries negative connotations in their mind these past few years so those like Dr. Brown will reject that label in public now. He is however their main apologist to the mainline Evangelical world. The International Coalition of Apostolic Leaders (ICAL) and United States Coalition of Apostolic Leaders, (USACL) are the outgrowth of what they themselves use to  term: NAR. From NAR of 20 years ago,  to ICAL &#038; USACL  as the name today,  there were one or two other marketing name changes in the past decade. But they are all the same people just using different names for the apostolic prophetic movements prime organization of ICAL and USACL. (These two are basically the same just different &#8220;spheres.&#8221;)</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/03/28/interview-with-steve-hassan-on-dominionism/#comment-100842&quot;&gt;Headless Unicorn Guy&lt;/a&gt;.

Not to be confused with its parent group, Christians Against World Peace.]]></description>
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<p>Not to be confused with its parent group, Christians Against World Peace.</p>
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		By: Headless Unicorn Guy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 12:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/03/28/interview-with-steve-hassan-on-dominionism/#comment-100816&quot;&gt;DoctorDJ&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;IT&#039;S ALL GONNA BURN! SCRIPTURE! SCRIPTURE SCRIPTURE!&quot;

From your reference, I see you are another survivor of The Gospel According to Hal Lindsay and Christians For Nuclear War.]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;IT&#8217;S ALL GONNA BURN! SCRIPTURE! SCRIPTURE SCRIPTURE!&#8221;</p>
<p>From your reference, I see you are another survivor of The Gospel According to Hal Lindsay and Christians For Nuclear War.</p>
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		By: J.E.		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/03/28/interview-with-steve-hassan-on-dominionism/#comment-100814&quot;&gt;SolarHacksaw&lt;/a&gt;.

I’ve read allegations of Michael L. Brown being involved in the NAR, although he has denied its existence.]]></description>
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<p>I’ve read allegations of Michael L. Brown being involved in the NAR, although he has denied its existence.</p>
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		By: Barb		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 21:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This was an interesting dialogue. Hearing the name “Doug Burleigh “ sent me to Google. I found yes, that was the guy I knew back in my Young Life days back in the late 60s early 70s.  But we pronounced his last name like “Burly”.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was an interesting dialogue. Hearing the name “Doug Burleigh “ sent me to Google. I found yes, that was the guy I knew back in my Young Life days back in the late 60s early 70s.  But we pronounced his last name like “Burly”.</p>
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		By: John Campbell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Campbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 18:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/03/28/interview-with-steve-hassan-on-dominionism/#comment-100823&quot;&gt;SolarHacksaw&lt;/a&gt;.

“Their apostles and prophets are creating new religious principles out of thin air.”  Amen. Big time. Last year in Boston, Chuck Pierce who is acknowledged as having inherited Peter Wagner’s “mantle” falsely declared “the covenant God gave to national/ethnic Israel is the same covenant He gave to all mankind.” Yikes! 
Scripture directly teaches Jesus Himself IS our new covenant. ( Isaiah 49:8-9, 42:6-9, 59:21) Jesus redemption blood offered in heaven for our eternal redemption IS new covenant blood. ( Luke 22:20, 1 Cor 11:25) 
The bad shepherds are the ones in most trouble with God as they are under a spiritual delusion by unwittingly  “ trampling under foot the Son of God, and having regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and have insulted the Holy Spirit of grace.” ( Hebrews 10:29) 

This is the bottom line in Gods eyes for the false apostles and prophets in the false apostolic- prophetic movement and its very very subtle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/03/28/interview-with-steve-hassan-on-dominionism/#comment-100823">SolarHacksaw</a>.</p>
<p>“Their apostles and prophets are creating new religious principles out of thin air.”  Amen. Big time. Last year in Boston, Chuck Pierce who is acknowledged as having inherited Peter Wagner’s “mantle” falsely declared “the covenant God gave to national/ethnic Israel is the same covenant He gave to all mankind.” Yikes!<br />
Scripture directly teaches Jesus Himself IS our new covenant. ( Isaiah 49:8-9, 42:6-9, 59:21) Jesus redemption blood offered in heaven for our eternal redemption IS new covenant blood. ( Luke 22:20, 1 Cor 11:25)<br />
The bad shepherds are the ones in most trouble with God as they are under a spiritual delusion by unwittingly  “ trampling under foot the Son of God, and having regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and have insulted the Holy Spirit of grace.” ( Hebrews 10:29) </p>
<p>This is the bottom line in Gods eyes for the false apostles and prophets in the false apostolic- prophetic movement and its very very subtle.</p>
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		By: John Campbell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Campbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 18:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/03/28/interview-with-steve-hassan-on-dominionism/#comment-100823&quot;&gt;SolarHacksaw&lt;/a&gt;.

“Their apostles and prophets are creating new religious principles out of thin air.”  Amen. Big time. Last year in Boston, Chuck Pierce who is acknowledged as having inherited Peter Wagner’s “mantle” falsely declared “the covenant God gave to national/ethnic Israel is the same covenant He gave to all mankind.” Yikes! 
Scripture directly teaches Jesus Himself IS our new covenant. ( Isaiah 49:8-9, 42:6-9, 59:21) Jesus redemption blood offered in heaven for our eternal redemption IS new covenant blood. ( Luke 22:20, 1 Cor 11:25) 
The bad shepherds are the ones in most trouble with God as they are under a spiritual delusion by unwittingly  “ trampling under foot the Son of God, and having regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and have insulted the Holy Spirit of grace.” ( Hebrews 10:29) 

This is the bottom line in Gods eyes for the false apostles and prophets in the false apostolic- prophetic movement and its very very subtle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/03/28/interview-with-steve-hassan-on-dominionism/#comment-100823">SolarHacksaw</a>.</p>
<p>“Their apostles and prophets are creating new religious principles out of thin air.”  Amen. Big time. Last year in Boston, Chuck Pierce who is acknowledged as having inherited Peter Wagner’s “mantle” falsely declared “the covenant God gave to national/ethnic Israel is the same covenant He gave to all mankind.” Yikes!<br />
Scripture directly teaches Jesus Himself IS our new covenant. ( Isaiah 49:8-9, 42:6-9, 59:21) Jesus redemption blood offered in heaven for our eternal redemption IS new covenant blood. ( Luke 22:20, 1 Cor 11:25)<br />
The bad shepherds are the ones in most trouble with God as they are under a spiritual delusion by unwittingly  “ trampling under foot the Son of God, and having regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and have insulted the Holy Spirit of grace.” ( Hebrews 10:29) </p>
<p>This is the bottom line in Gods eyes for the false apostles and prophets in the false apostolic- prophetic movement and its very very subtle.</p>
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		By: John Campbell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 17:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/03/28/interview-with-steve-hassan-on-dominionism/#comment-100825&quot;&gt;SolarHacksaw&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, the 7 mountain mandate is driven by the spirit of anti Christ and a part of the God mandated end time delusion where even the elect could be deceived. Cultish, religious and legalistic “things” are profoundly and subtlety taking many away from abiding in Christ and His teachings. The lust for political power and money is apparent. The great commandment, the great commission and Gods great prophetic purpose for His new covenant blood bought body to be one with the Trinity and each other are being cast aside by the false apostles and prophets of the false apostolic- prophetic movement. And Jesus weeps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/03/28/interview-with-steve-hassan-on-dominionism/#comment-100825">SolarHacksaw</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, the 7 mountain mandate is driven by the spirit of anti Christ and a part of the God mandated end time delusion where even the elect could be deceived. Cultish, religious and legalistic “things” are profoundly and subtlety taking many away from abiding in Christ and His teachings. The lust for political power and money is apparent. The great commandment, the great commission and Gods great prophetic purpose for His new covenant blood bought body to be one with the Trinity and each other are being cast aside by the false apostles and prophets of the false apostolic- prophetic movement. And Jesus weeps.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 10:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/03/28/interview-with-steve-hassan-on-dominionism/#comment-100824&quot;&gt;bluetah&lt;/a&gt;.

Plenty of fundamentalist do not believe the Constitution was divinely inspired, because that would put it on the same footing as the Bible--the word of God. Kennedy, if he said this,  was flat out wrong.

&quot;I don&#039;t know how long exactly the &quot;Seven Mountains&quot; concept of societal control has been around...&quot;

Then you should take some time to learn about it, because it&#039;s not what you just said it was.

The idea that Christians (as well as all other citizens) should be involved in and influencing government is as old as the Republic. 

&quot;The seven mountain mandate or the seven mountain prophecy is an anti-biblical and damaging movement that has gained a following in some Charismatic and Pentecostal churches. Those who follow the seven mountain mandate believe that, in order for Christ to return to earth, the church must take control of the seven major spheres of influence in society for the glory of Christ. Once the world has been made subject to the kingdom of God, Jesus will return and rule the world.&quot;

https://www.gotquestions.org/seven-mountain-mandate.html

It&#039;s worth reading the entire article at the link. Please read it. The main point though, is the mandate is the result of extra-Biblical revelation. Those that hold to it, believe the vision carries just as much weight and authority as the Bible. From the same article:

&quot;The theology associated with the seven mountain mandate is dangerous, and it sheds a terribly negative light on Christians everywhere. The 7-M teaching puts a tremendous burden on believers to perform, make progress in their relative spheres of influence, and set the stage for Jesus’ return to earth—all without a definite end point. Little emphasis is placed on the gospel message of salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ; the movement is more about staking claims and taking control. &lt;b&gt;The seven mountain mandate is a movement led by false prophets, and it should be avoided and exposed whenever Bible-believing Christians encounter it&lt;/b&gt;.&quot;

I&#039;m glad WT is writing about this; I hope he does more to expose and explain this false theology.

It&#039;s clear to me that you are having a difficult time (for whatever reason) differentiating between conservative Christians who advocate that Christians become politically active and the Seven-Moutains/Dominionist crowd. Stop painting with a broad brush. Just because the 7M group advocates political activism doesn&#039;t mean all fundamentalist are going to jump into their heretical bed. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. 

Unfortunately, it does mean some will. Franklin Graham is losing his way by associating with 7M. He should be called out on it.

And yes, I worry too that these people seem to have influence on the president.]]></description>
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<p>Plenty of fundamentalist do not believe the Constitution was divinely inspired, because that would put it on the same footing as the Bible&#8211;the word of God. Kennedy, if he said this,  was flat out wrong.</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t know how long exactly the &#8220;Seven Mountains&#8221; concept of societal control has been around&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Then you should take some time to learn about it, because it&#8217;s not what you just said it was.</p>
<p>The idea that Christians (as well as all other citizens) should be involved in and influencing government is as old as the Republic. </p>
<p>&#8220;The seven mountain mandate or the seven mountain prophecy is an anti-biblical and damaging movement that has gained a following in some Charismatic and Pentecostal churches. Those who follow the seven mountain mandate believe that, in order for Christ to return to earth, the church must take control of the seven major spheres of influence in society for the glory of Christ. Once the world has been made subject to the kingdom of God, Jesus will return and rule the world.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.gotquestions.org/seven-mountain-mandate.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.gotquestions.org/seven-mountain-mandate.html</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth reading the entire article at the link. Please read it. The main point though, is the mandate is the result of extra-Biblical revelation. Those that hold to it, believe the vision carries just as much weight and authority as the Bible. From the same article:</p>
<p>&#8220;The theology associated with the seven mountain mandate is dangerous, and it sheds a terribly negative light on Christians everywhere. The 7-M teaching puts a tremendous burden on believers to perform, make progress in their relative spheres of influence, and set the stage for Jesus’ return to earth—all without a definite end point. Little emphasis is placed on the gospel message of salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ; the movement is more about staking claims and taking control. <b>The seven mountain mandate is a movement led by false prophets, and it should be avoided and exposed whenever Bible-believing Christians encounter it</b>.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad WT is writing about this; I hope he does more to expose and explain this false theology.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear to me that you are having a difficult time (for whatever reason) differentiating between conservative Christians who advocate that Christians become politically active and the Seven-Moutains/Dominionist crowd. Stop painting with a broad brush. Just because the 7M group advocates political activism doesn&#8217;t mean all fundamentalist are going to jump into their heretical bed. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, it does mean some will. Franklin Graham is losing his way by associating with 7M. He should be called out on it.</p>
<p>And yes, I worry too that these people seem to have influence on the president.</p>
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