Comments on: Harvest Bible Chapel Responds to Anne Green’s Allegations https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/02/18/harvest-bible-chapel-responds-to-anne-greens-allegations/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Wed, 20 Feb 2019 14:32:56 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: John Cargill https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/02/18/harvest-bible-chapel-responds-to-anne-greens-allegations/#comment-100117 Wed, 20 Feb 2019 14:32:56 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=34079#comment-100117 In reply to David.

Absolutely not.

]]> By: John Cargill https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/02/18/harvest-bible-chapel-responds-to-anne-greens-allegations/#comment-100116 Wed, 20 Feb 2019 14:30:37 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=34079#comment-100116 In reply to WillysJeepMan.

Pretty sure James preached on the issue of the Agags in our lives on at least ONE occasion. A rather inconvenient message for him/them now.

]]> By: Bene D https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/02/18/harvest-bible-chapel-responds-to-anne-greens-allegations/#comment-100115 Wed, 20 Feb 2019 14:24:38 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=34079#comment-100115 In reply to Tacitus.

Yeah. That was an outstanding letter, clear, biblical and direct.

]]> By: David https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/02/18/harvest-bible-chapel-responds-to-anne-greens-allegations/#comment-100113 Wed, 20 Feb 2019 12:59:15 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=34079#comment-100113 Sandy Song was the other worship leader on the plane. So Harvest makes an offer for her to meet with an HR rep, perhaps Todd Rukes the head of HR, and an Elder’s wife. Would you recommend that Anne participate in that? Is that an unbiased independent sexual harassment investigation?

]]> By: WillysJeepMan https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/02/18/harvest-bible-chapel-responds-to-anne-greens-allegations/#comment-100114 Wed, 20 Feb 2019 11:19:08 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=34079#comment-100114 In reply to Mickey.

I agree. This is a slow-motion free-fall version of the Mars Hill implosion. A cult of personality cannot survive when the personality is gone.

Technically, it is not too late for the church to recover. Historically though, when a church spirals down this far, they have passed the “event horizon” and beyond the point of no return.

What would it take for HBC to recover? A miracle. It would require all of the leadership to confess and repent of their part in enabling James and being his accomplices. And having confessed and repented, stepping down. Not one person in that group can remain. (think Saul and his preserving King Agag)

The congregants need to reflect and consider what warning signs they saw that they dismissed or allowed themselves to be convinced weren’t a problem. This is a great time for growth for the individual members of the church. They should reach out to their friends who DID see those things (when they didn’t)… find out from them how they were able to see those things, and learn those lessons.

The challenge after that is for the congregation to identify those men who ARE Biblically qualified to lead the church. As a congregation, they lack discernment because they’ve been disarmed of their discernment by James and his leadership. Years of gaslighting and manipulation will have that effect. I’m confident that there are men there who are faithful and qualified to lead… will the congregation be able to see that?

That’s the catch-22.

I’ve heard some talk about recruiting Dave Corning to come back to lead the work of rebuilding the church. I can’t think of anyone more gifted and qualified to lead that work. That’s something specific that I can pray for… him or someone who is as well-respected as he is.

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