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		By: Ramon Reyes		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear commentators and doctors’ philosophers and evangelists; the debate is good, but, lack substance. I did not learn or discover any biblical discernment. Both philosopher doctors have forgotten the following biblical quotations: Matthew 4:8-9; Why did Jesus respond in that way? Read John 18:36; therefore, the political doctrinal evangelism initiated by Mr. Ralph Drollinger is not biblical teaching, it is a &#039;political move&#039; used by Trump and suggested by Mike Pence.

As for theological studies, it is a farce to argue that an &#039;Evangelist Shepherd&#039; should be qualified by &#039;laws of men&#039;. God lifts up the &#039;genuine preachers of prophecies, let us see some biblical texts:1 Corinthians 1:26-28; Luke 19:40, 46, and 48. this last verse of the chapter makes &#039;reference&#039; to the strategies of Freemasonry; to make to believe that Donald Trump is acting against globalism or the imminent establishment of the &#039;New World Order&#039;; the mission and objective of the &#039;evangelizing campaign’ promoted by Ralph Drollinger can be read in Matthew 24:24; Revelation 16:14; 19:20 and its leader is described in Revelation 13:17 (Current sanctions exercised under the Trump administration; for example, trade war, disputes with currency exchange, oil and gas control, imposed economic sanctions, and obstruction of aid between countries that do not accept their leadership; in addition, he believes to be &#039;a god&#039; to dictate decisions &quot;WHO IS THE OWNER OF WHAT”


In the Bible, Mr. Trump&#039;s U.S. administrative period is depicted in the biblical quotations above and in the book of 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4; If we read these biblical texts and Mr. Ralph Drollinger  and  Mr. Warren Throckmorton  are unable to interpret them; Then, we have reached &#039;the final hour&#039; that tells us that  the &quot;New World Order&quot; as the last sign identified with &#039;the Antichrist&#039; 1 John 2:18-19, 22-23; 4:2-3. Therefore, &#039;the antichrist&#039; is not a man, but a &#039;group of Israelite descendants&#039; who &#039;claim to be Jews but they are not.&#039; Revelation 2:8-10; to whom is this verse addressed? To all those &#039;Jewish descendant&#039; who is linked to the “NEW WORLD ORDER&quot;. A &#039;hard stone&#039; writes to all of you as a foolishness without theological titles]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear commentators and doctors’ philosophers and evangelists; the debate is good, but, lack substance. I did not learn or discover any biblical discernment. Both philosopher doctors have forgotten the following biblical quotations: Matthew 4:8-9; Why did Jesus respond in that way? Read John 18:36; therefore, the political doctrinal evangelism initiated by Mr. Ralph Drollinger is not biblical teaching, it is a &#8216;political move&#8217; used by Trump and suggested by Mike Pence.</p>
<p>As for theological studies, it is a farce to argue that an &#8216;Evangelist Shepherd&#8217; should be qualified by &#8216;laws of men&#8217;. God lifts up the &#8216;genuine preachers of prophecies, let us see some biblical texts:1 Corinthians 1:26-28; Luke 19:40, 46, and 48. this last verse of the chapter makes &#8216;reference&#8217; to the strategies of Freemasonry; to make to believe that Donald Trump is acting against globalism or the imminent establishment of the &#8216;New World Order&#8217;; the mission and objective of the &#8216;evangelizing campaign’ promoted by Ralph Drollinger can be read in Matthew 24:24; Revelation 16:14; 19:20 and its leader is described in Revelation 13:17 (Current sanctions exercised under the Trump administration; for example, trade war, disputes with currency exchange, oil and gas control, imposed economic sanctions, and obstruction of aid between countries that do not accept their leadership; in addition, he believes to be &#8216;a god&#8217; to dictate decisions &#8220;WHO IS THE OWNER OF WHAT”</p>
<p>In the Bible, Mr. Trump&#8217;s U.S. administrative period is depicted in the biblical quotations above and in the book of 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4; If we read these biblical texts and Mr. Ralph Drollinger  and  Mr. Warren Throckmorton  are unable to interpret them; Then, we have reached &#8216;the final hour&#8217; that tells us that  the &#8220;New World Order&#8221; as the last sign identified with &#8216;the Antichrist&#8217; 1 John 2:18-19, 22-23; 4:2-3. Therefore, &#8216;the antichrist&#8217; is not a man, but a &#8216;group of Israelite descendants&#8217; who &#8216;claim to be Jews but they are not.&#8217; Revelation 2:8-10; to whom is this verse addressed? To all those &#8216;Jewish descendant&#8217; who is linked to the “NEW WORLD ORDER&#8221;. A &#8216;hard stone&#8217; writes to all of you as a foolishness without theological titles</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/08/ralph-drollinger-responds-christian-nationalist-charges/#comment-99474</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2019 21:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/08/ralph-drollinger-responds-christian-nationalist-charges/#comment-99436&quot;&gt;Warren Throckmorton&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve found this post very interesting.  I concur with you that it can be credibly claimed that D is (might one put it this way?) at least &#039;on the Christian nationalist spectrum&#039;.

For me, the use of the term &quot;dictatorship&quot; - which D does not explicitly deny, although his organization appears to infer that he didn&#039;t really mean &quot;dictatorship&quot; - in the presence of one who often seems to be inclined to dictatorial ways (eg. changing his defence policy without reference to his cabinet) is worrying enough to be going on with, even if Sam&#039;s scepticism about D being a Christian nationalist per se is justified.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/08/ralph-drollinger-responds-christian-nationalist-charges/#comment-99436">Warren Throckmorton</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found this post very interesting.  I concur with you that it can be credibly claimed that D is (might one put it this way?) at least &#8216;on the Christian nationalist spectrum&#8217;.</p>
<p>For me, the use of the term &#8220;dictatorship&#8221; &#8211; which D does not explicitly deny, although his organization appears to infer that he didn&#8217;t really mean &#8220;dictatorship&#8221; &#8211; in the presence of one who often seems to be inclined to dictatorial ways (eg. changing his defence policy without reference to his cabinet) is worrying enough to be going on with, even if Sam&#8217;s scepticism about D being a Christian nationalist per se is justified.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/08/ralph-drollinger-responds-christian-nationalist-charges/#comment-99467</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2019 00:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/08/ralph-drollinger-responds-christian-nationalist-charges/#comment-99461&quot;&gt;sam80&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, it appears that Drollinger&#039;s outfit denies that D advocated dictatorship, although there appears also to be no direct denial of the use of the term &quot;benevolent dictatorship&quot;: https://capmin.org/capitol-ministries-responds-to-newsweek/

The CM response to the Newsweek article contains some other interesting assertions.  Here&#039;s one of them:-

&quot;Drollinger is not a climate-change denier. He understands that the world has always experienced climate change. What he does not believe is that man has the power or the ability to destroy the ecological system that God perfectly designed.&quot;

My response to that last sentence is &quot;hmmmmm&quot;!  Has he not heard of nuclear weapons?!  Or, at a rather less dramatic level, is he not aware that many species, presumably intended to be part of the &quot;ecological system that God perfectly designed&quot;, are critically endangered owing to human activity?

And I&#039;m puzzled by this bit:-

&quot;The Newsweek story reported: &#039;Nowhere to be found in the NT is an explicit command for the Institution of the State to assume such a function,&#039; he wrote. &#039;Jesus was only a role model to emulate.&#039;  The last of these two points is false, inflammatory, taken out of context, and libelous.&quot;

Not quite sure why he is making such a fuss about this ... although the NT gives us several other role models, the most notable being Mary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/08/ralph-drollinger-responds-christian-nationalist-charges/#comment-99461">sam80</a>.</p>
<p>Well, it appears that Drollinger&#8217;s outfit denies that D advocated dictatorship, although there appears also to be no direct denial of the use of the term &#8220;benevolent dictatorship&#8221;: <a href="https://capmin.org/capitol-ministries-responds-to-newsweek/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://capmin.org/capitol-ministries-responds-to-newsweek/</a></p>
<p>The CM response to the Newsweek article contains some other interesting assertions.  Here&#8217;s one of them:-</p>
<p>&#8220;Drollinger is not a climate-change denier. He understands that the world has always experienced climate change. What he does not believe is that man has the power or the ability to destroy the ecological system that God perfectly designed.&#8221;</p>
<p>My response to that last sentence is &#8220;hmmmmm&#8221;!  Has he not heard of nuclear weapons?!  Or, at a rather less dramatic level, is he not aware that many species, presumably intended to be part of the &#8220;ecological system that God perfectly designed&#8221;, are critically endangered owing to human activity?</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m puzzled by this bit:-</p>
<p>&#8220;The Newsweek story reported: &#8216;Nowhere to be found in the NT is an explicit command for the Institution of the State to assume such a function,&#8217; he wrote. &#8216;Jesus was only a role model to emulate.&#8217;  The last of these two points is false, inflammatory, taken out of context, and libelous.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite sure why he is making such a fuss about this &#8230; although the NT gives us several other role models, the most notable being Mary.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/08/ralph-drollinger-responds-christian-nationalist-charges/#comment-99460</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2019 14:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/08/ralph-drollinger-responds-christian-nationalist-charges/#comment-99457&quot;&gt;sam80&lt;/a&gt;.

All ideological, including theological, positions are relative; noone has a monopoly on &#039;the truth&#039;, since truth is ultimately vested in God alone. Any human perspective, however enlightened or inspired, is to some extent compromised by human limitations.  This reality is one of things that invites those of us who call ourselves Christians to embrace humility.


I agree with you entirely that many people outside the Church have much to offer the human family.  In our (catholic) neck of woods, we often talk of &quot;people of good will&quot; (outside the Church) - and rightly so.


The reports that Drollinger asked Trump for &quot;dictatorship&quot; (whether &quot;benevolent&quot; or not is ultimately unimportant - dictatorship is dictatorship, and power always corrupts ... again the reality of the human condition, as so powerfully expressed in Genesis) have not, to my knowledge, been contested by him (Drollinger).  Whatever one might think of Drollinger as a theologian, the apparent advocacy of &quot;dictatorship&quot; is not something we should welcome, is it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/08/ralph-drollinger-responds-christian-nationalist-charges/#comment-99457">sam80</a>.</p>
<p>All ideological, including theological, positions are relative; noone has a monopoly on &#8216;the truth&#8217;, since truth is ultimately vested in God alone. Any human perspective, however enlightened or inspired, is to some extent compromised by human limitations.  This reality is one of things that invites those of us who call ourselves Christians to embrace humility.</p>
<p>I agree with you entirely that many people outside the Church have much to offer the human family.  In our (catholic) neck of woods, we often talk of &#8220;people of good will&#8221; (outside the Church) &#8211; and rightly so.</p>
<p>The reports that Drollinger asked Trump for &#8220;dictatorship&#8221; (whether &#8220;benevolent&#8221; or not is ultimately unimportant &#8211; dictatorship is dictatorship, and power always corrupts &#8230; again the reality of the human condition, as so powerfully expressed in Genesis) have not, to my knowledge, been contested by him (Drollinger).  Whatever one might think of Drollinger as a theologian, the apparent advocacy of &#8220;dictatorship&#8221; is not something we should welcome, is it?</p>
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		By: otrotierra		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[otrotierra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2019 13:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/08/ralph-drollinger-responds-christian-nationalist-charges/#comment-99447&quot;&gt;Lynn Betts&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for inviting sam80 to stop and actually read the comment he imagines he is responding to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/08/ralph-drollinger-responds-christian-nationalist-charges/#comment-99447">Lynn Betts</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for inviting sam80 to stop and actually read the comment he imagines he is responding to.</p>
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