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		By: pc		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/03/jerry-falwell-is-wrong-about-the-poor/#comment-99405</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2019 18:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d add that many of the poor folks volunteer their time and share their wealth and housing and food with others.  Much of that doesn&#039;t translate into monetary donations but it if did it would equal quite a bit of money.  Think of all the wealthy folks who live two people per McMansion and go on lavish vacations and hire caretakers and nannies rather than share or volunteer their time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d add that many of the poor folks volunteer their time and share their wealth and housing and food with others.  Much of that doesn&#8217;t translate into monetary donations but it if did it would equal quite a bit of money.  Think of all the wealthy folks who live two people per McMansion and go on lavish vacations and hire caretakers and nannies rather than share or volunteer their time.</p>
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		By: seashell		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/03/jerry-falwell-is-wrong-about-the-poor/#comment-99388</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seashell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2019 14:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I&#039;m guessing that in his world, &quot;charity&quot; is a 501(c)(3) that provides a comfortable middle-class income to it&#039;s founder and employees...&lt;/i&gt;

Kinda curious as to how many people with &#039;middle-class incomes&#039; fly around on their own private jets, like the Falwells and other 501(c)(3) recipients?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I&#8217;m guessing that in his world, &#8220;charity&#8221; is a 501(c)(3) that provides a comfortable middle-class income to it&#8217;s founder and employees&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Kinda curious as to how many people with &#8216;middle-class incomes&#8217; fly around on their own private jets, like the Falwells and other 501(c)(3) recipients?</p>
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		By: Tacitus		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2019 09:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/03/jerry-falwell-is-wrong-about-the-poor/#comment-99377&quot;&gt;buddyglass23&lt;/a&gt;.

Don&#039;t really see the bad rap here. Yes, you can certainly argue that a rising tide lifts all boats, and the more wealth we have to spread around the better, but there&#039;s a dozen different ways to say that without  it reading like it was taken directly from the prosperity gospel playbook.

He&#039;s also just plain wrong, as Warren says. Indeed, it&#039;s very likely that the charity given by poor people has a much greater immediate effect than the donations from the wealthy, given much of it is likely given from one poor person in a community to another -- a neighbor, friend, or family member.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/03/jerry-falwell-is-wrong-about-the-poor/#comment-99377">buddyglass23</a>.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t really see the bad rap here. Yes, you can certainly argue that a rising tide lifts all boats, and the more wealth we have to spread around the better, but there&#8217;s a dozen different ways to say that without  it reading like it was taken directly from the prosperity gospel playbook.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s also just plain wrong, as Warren says. Indeed, it&#8217;s very likely that the charity given by poor people has a much greater immediate effect than the donations from the wealthy, given much of it is likely given from one poor person in a community to another &#8212; a neighbor, friend, or family member.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2019 18:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/03/jerry-falwell-is-wrong-about-the-poor/#comment-99333&quot;&gt;MyPetSlug&lt;/a&gt;.

Love the satire!


I should, of course, have said &quot;the Bible&quot; or, better still &quot;the [Holy] Scriptures&quot;, not &quot;his Bible&quot;.]]></description>
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<p>Love the satire!</p>
<p>I should, of course, have said &#8220;the Bible&#8221; or, better still &#8220;the [Holy] Scriptures&#8221;, not &#8220;his Bible&#8221;.</p>
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		By: buddyglass23		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2019 18:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trust me when I say I&#039;m no fan of Falwell, but I think he may be getting a bad rap here.  While the poor can (and do!) give money to charity, simply by virtue of their being poor the &quot;reach&quot; of their giving is limited.  The error Falwell may be committing is to conflate &quot;impact of giving&quot; with &quot;significance of giving&quot;.  In one sense the widow&#039;s mite was just a mite; it didn&#039;t do much.  In another sense it was huge.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trust me when I say I&#8217;m no fan of Falwell, but I think he may be getting a bad rap here.  While the poor can (and do!) give money to charity, simply by virtue of their being poor the &#8220;reach&#8221; of their giving is limited.  The error Falwell may be committing is to conflate &#8220;impact of giving&#8221; with &#8220;significance of giving&#8221;.  In one sense the widow&#8217;s mite was just a mite; it didn&#8217;t do much.  In another sense it was huge.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/03/jerry-falwell-is-wrong-about-the-poor/#comment-99355</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2019 21:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/03/jerry-falwell-is-wrong-about-the-poor/#comment-99309&quot;&gt;DavidP&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;The idea that God loves the rich (otherwise they wouldn&#039;t be rich!)&quot;


No no, you have that all wrong.  God only loves the rich &lt;em&gt;conservatives&lt;/em&gt;.  The rich liberals got that way because they made a deal with the devil.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/03/jerry-falwell-is-wrong-about-the-poor/#comment-99309">DavidP</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;The idea that God loves the rich (otherwise they wouldn&#8217;t be rich!)&#8221;</p>
<p>No no, you have that all wrong.  God only loves the rich <em>conservatives</em>.  The rich liberals got that way because they made a deal with the devil.</p>
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		By: Daniel 'n' Terry Unruh		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/03/jerry-falwell-is-wrong-about-the-poor/#comment-99337</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel 'n' Terry Unruh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2019 19:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I really thought Mr. Falwell would never top the outrageousness of the comment below... but he may have actually succeeded with this interview.  
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“In my opinion, Donald Trump lives a life of loving and helping others as Jesus taught in the great commandment,” he said Monday.&quot;

https://tinyurl.com/ydd3q6bp]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really thought Mr. Falwell would never top the outrageousness of the comment below&#8230; but he may have actually succeeded with this interview.<br />
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“In my opinion, Donald Trump lives a life of loving and helping others as Jesus taught in the great commandment,” he said Monday.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/ydd3q6bp" rel="nofollow ugc">https://tinyurl.com/ydd3q6bp</a></p>
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		By: Lynn Betts		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/03/jerry-falwell-is-wrong-about-the-poor/#comment-99331</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn Betts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2019 16:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;A poor person never gave anyone a job.&quot;

Of course it&#039;s not our normally preferred, or first, thought in reply to this, but the poor person really does &quot;give someone a job.&quot; They give a &quot;job&quot; - a valuable task, a valuable opportunity - to bless one who &quot;has&quot; and is willing to obey God&#039;s instruction to share, to sacrifice, to care for, someone in need.

It does a person great good - in character formation - to be in a position to have to humbly accept another&#039;s assistance. And without the needy, what good is all that the &quot;not needy&quot; worth? It exists to be shared, to assist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A poor person never gave anyone a job.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course it&#8217;s not our normally preferred, or first, thought in reply to this, but the poor person really does &#8220;give someone a job.&#8221; They give a &#8220;job&#8221; &#8211; a valuable task, a valuable opportunity &#8211; to bless one who &#8220;has&#8221; and is willing to obey God&#8217;s instruction to share, to sacrifice, to care for, someone in need.</p>
<p>It does a person great good &#8211; in character formation &#8211; to be in a position to have to humbly accept another&#8217;s assistance. And without the needy, what good is all that the &#8220;not needy&#8221; worth? It exists to be shared, to assist.</p>
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		By: War-El		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2019 15:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/03/jerry-falwell-is-wrong-about-the-poor/#comment-99327&quot;&gt;Tacitus&lt;/a&gt;.

Because that&#039;s where I am right now in my own personal development, so that&#039;s what I see in everything. That&#039;s the honest truth. For quite a few years now, I have listened to and read a steady stream of material that I disagree with, sometimes strongly. What it has done (for me) is demonstrated that both the left and right are often the same car in different colors of paint. And they are both a lemon of a car, because they waste a lot of energy trying to vilify one another using precisely the same tactics, and going nowhere while doing it.

I thought my swipe at Planned Parenthood was completely deserved and also relevant to my point in that post. Does it not seem odd to you that you are suggesting that I am defensive when you yourself are so obviously and sharply provoked by my remarks?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/03/jerry-falwell-is-wrong-about-the-poor/#comment-99327">Tacitus</a>.</p>
<p>Because that&#8217;s where I am right now in my own personal development, so that&#8217;s what I see in everything. That&#8217;s the honest truth. For quite a few years now, I have listened to and read a steady stream of material that I disagree with, sometimes strongly. What it has done (for me) is demonstrated that both the left and right are often the same car in different colors of paint. And they are both a lemon of a car, because they waste a lot of energy trying to vilify one another using precisely the same tactics, and going nowhere while doing it.</p>
<p>I thought my swipe at Planned Parenthood was completely deserved and also relevant to my point in that post. Does it not seem odd to you that you are suggesting that I am defensive when you yourself are so obviously and sharply provoked by my remarks?</p>
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		By: Carol A Ranney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carol A Ranney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2019 14:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/03/jerry-falwell-is-wrong-about-the-poor/#comment-99337&quot;&gt;Daniel &#039;n&#039; Terry Unruh&lt;/a&gt;.

Hahaha. My only comment to that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2019/01/03/jerry-falwell-is-wrong-about-the-poor/#comment-99337">Daniel &#8216;n&#8217; Terry Unruh</a>.</p>
<p>Hahaha. My only comment to that.</p>
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