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	Comments on: Harvest Bible Chapel: Mars Hill Church 2.0?	</title>
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		By: John Campbell		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/21/harvest-bible-chapel-mars-hill-church-2-0/#comment-99176</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Campbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2018 17:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/21/harvest-bible-chapel-mars-hill-church-2-0/#comment-99168&quot;&gt;Mr Jesperson&lt;/a&gt;.

Scott Peck wrote an excellent book on this very subject back in the 80’s called “ People of the Lie.” As someone who spent the majority of my professional life as a psychiatric diagnostician the guy in your video is spot on. Thanks. It’s been my feeling for a long time that many many big name Christian leaders with a national platform have divorced themselves to Christ years ago. They do not point others to Jesus but with profoundly subtle manipulation to themselves for their own selfish needs to be “influential.” These are the bad shepherds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/21/harvest-bible-chapel-mars-hill-church-2-0/#comment-99168">Mr Jesperson</a>.</p>
<p>Scott Peck wrote an excellent book on this very subject back in the 80’s called “ People of the Lie.” As someone who spent the majority of my professional life as a psychiatric diagnostician the guy in your video is spot on. Thanks. It’s been my feeling for a long time that many many big name Christian leaders with a national platform have divorced themselves to Christ years ago. They do not point others to Jesus but with profoundly subtle manipulation to themselves for their own selfish needs to be “influential.” These are the bad shepherds.</p>
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		By: Tacitus		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2018 02:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/21/harvest-bible-chapel-mars-hill-church-2-0/#comment-99164&quot;&gt;AMParsley&lt;/a&gt;.

But they already do, which is the problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/21/harvest-bible-chapel-mars-hill-church-2-0/#comment-99164">AMParsley</a>.</p>
<p>But they already do, which is the problem.</p>
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		By: Mr Jesperson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr Jesperson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2018 01:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I encourage everyone who has done as I have before, which is to take certain strong leaders and put them up on pedestals to watch and consider the following video.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrHTE--jMfQ  People like MacDonald, Yohannan and Driscoll very much are complete narcissists.  There is nothing Christlike about any of these lies or the many other celebrity leaders who have these traits.  The real Jesus showed absolutely no mercy to the narcissistic religious false leaders of His day.  He does not change so that is still true today with the Neo-Pharisees like these guys.  He did show mercy to great sinners like prostitutes and tax collectors.  Also be sure to check out the other video I posted in the last blog post on this subject.  According to the professionals all of our great self-made men and women have to be narcissists in order to get famous in today&#039;s culture.  I do believe that she is right.  Follow these guys at your own risk and risk to your loved ones...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I encourage everyone who has done as I have before, which is to take certain strong leaders and put them up on pedestals to watch and consider the following video.  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrHTE--jMfQ" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrHTE&#8211;jMfQ</a>  People like MacDonald, Yohannan and Driscoll very much are complete narcissists.  There is nothing Christlike about any of these lies or the many other celebrity leaders who have these traits.  The real Jesus showed absolutely no mercy to the narcissistic religious false leaders of His day.  He does not change so that is still true today with the Neo-Pharisees like these guys.  He did show mercy to great sinners like prostitutes and tax collectors.  Also be sure to check out the other video I posted in the last blog post on this subject.  According to the professionals all of our great self-made men and women have to be narcissists in order to get famous in today&#8217;s culture.  I do believe that she is right.  Follow these guys at your own risk and risk to your loved ones&#8230;</p>
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		By: Mr Jesperson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2018 01:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I encourage everyone who has done as I have before, which is to take certain strong leaders and put them up on pedestals to watch and consider the following video.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrHTE--jMfQ  People like MacDonald, Yohannan and Driscoll very much are complete narcissists.  There is nothing Christlike about any of these lies or the many other celebrity leaders who have these traits.  The real Jesus showed absolutely no mercy to the narcissistic religious false leaders of His day.  He does not change so that is still true today with the Neo-Pharisees like these guys.  He did show mercy to great sinners like prostitutes and tax collectors.  Also be sure to check out the other video I posted in the last blog post on this subject.  According to the professionals all of our great self-made men and women have to be narcissists in order to get famous in today&#039;s culture.  I do believe that she is right.  Follow these guys at your own risk and risk to your loved ones...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I encourage everyone who has done as I have before, which is to take certain strong leaders and put them up on pedestals to watch and consider the following video.  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrHTE--jMfQ" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrHTE&#8211;jMfQ</a>  People like MacDonald, Yohannan and Driscoll very much are complete narcissists.  There is nothing Christlike about any of these lies or the many other celebrity leaders who have these traits.  The real Jesus showed absolutely no mercy to the narcissistic religious false leaders of His day.  He does not change so that is still true today with the Neo-Pharisees like these guys.  He did show mercy to great sinners like prostitutes and tax collectors.  Also be sure to check out the other video I posted in the last blog post on this subject.  According to the professionals all of our great self-made men and women have to be narcissists in order to get famous in today&#8217;s culture.  I do believe that she is right.  Follow these guys at your own risk and risk to your loved ones&#8230;</p>
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		By: AMParsley		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/21/harvest-bible-chapel-mars-hill-church-2-0/#comment-99164</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2018 16:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is nothing but Religious Nihilism. Couple that with the Political Nihilism on the national front and we’ve got the hellscape we’re all experiencing. It’s going to get worse. All the Republican Trump voters have to OWN their vote.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is nothing but Religious Nihilism. Couple that with the Political Nihilism on the national front and we’ve got the hellscape we’re all experiencing. It’s going to get worse. All the Republican Trump voters have to OWN their vote.</p>
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		By: John Campbell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Campbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2018 13:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thus says the Lord God, Woe, you bad shepherds who have been feeding yourselves.  Should not the shepherd feed the flock? You eat the fat and clothe yourselves with wool, without feeding the flock.... but with force and severity you have dominated them. And they were scattered for lack of a good shepherd...Behold I am against the bad shepherds, and I shall demand my sheep from them. So the shepherds will not feed themselves anymore... Because you push with side and with shoulder, and thrust at all the weak with your horns, until you have scattered them.... Then I will set over them one shepherd, My servant David, and he will feed them Himself and be their shepherd. 
( Ezekiel 34- written 500 yrs after King David) 
Goodbye you bad shepherds and we exalt God for Jesus Christ, our good and great chief Shepherd!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thus says the Lord God, Woe, you bad shepherds who have been feeding yourselves.  Should not the shepherd feed the flock? You eat the fat and clothe yourselves with wool, without feeding the flock&#8230;. but with force and severity you have dominated them. And they were scattered for lack of a good shepherd&#8230;Behold I am against the bad shepherds, and I shall demand my sheep from them. So the shepherds will not feed themselves anymore&#8230; Because you push with side and with shoulder, and thrust at all the weak with your horns, until you have scattered them&#8230;. Then I will set over them one shepherd, My servant David, and he will feed them Himself and be their shepherd.<br />
( Ezekiel 34- written 500 yrs after King David)<br />
Goodbye you bad shepherds and we exalt God for Jesus Christ, our good and great chief Shepherd!</p>
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		By: Eric Rasmusen		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/21/harvest-bible-chapel-mars-hill-church-2-0/#comment-99160</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Rasmusen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2018 12:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It would be interesting to know how the control struggle worked, since the two pastors seem to have shared governance ideas. What was the employment contract like, the bylaws, etc?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting to know how the control struggle worked, since the two pastors seem to have shared governance ideas. What was the employment contract like, the bylaws, etc?</p>
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