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	Comments on: Defendant in Harvest Bible Chapel Defamation Case Posts Insider Emails with Accusations of Deception and Control (UPDATED with HBC Response)	</title>
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		By: disqus_qbIHo3ZjJC		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2018 19:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/18/defendant-in-harvest-bible-chapel-defamation-case-posts-insider-emails-with-accusations-of-deceit-and-control/#comment-99091&quot;&gt;Mark Thomson&lt;/a&gt;.

disqus_gRgXGaIdXq wrote]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/18/defendant-in-harvest-bible-chapel-defamation-case-posts-insider-emails-with-accusations-of-deceit-and-control/#comment-99091">Mark Thomson</a>.</p>
<p>disqus_gRgXGaIdXq wrote</p>
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		By: Daniel 'n' Terry Unruh		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/18/defendant-in-harvest-bible-chapel-defamation-case-posts-insider-emails-with-accusations-of-deceit-and-control/#comment-99161</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel 'n' Terry Unruh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2018 17:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/18/defendant-in-harvest-bible-chapel-defamation-case-posts-insider-emails-with-accusations-of-deceit-and-control/#comment-99155&quot;&gt;Eric Rasmusen&lt;/a&gt;.

Hmm ...guess in the absence of a Twitter account we are not real people ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/18/defendant-in-harvest-bible-chapel-defamation-case-posts-insider-emails-with-accusations-of-deceit-and-control/#comment-99155">Eric Rasmusen</a>.</p>
<p>Hmm &#8230;guess in the absence of a Twitter account we are not real people 😉</p>
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		By: War-El		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/18/defendant-in-harvest-bible-chapel-defamation-case-posts-insider-emails-with-accusations-of-deceit-and-control/#comment-99150</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2018 13:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/18/defendant-in-harvest-bible-chapel-defamation-case-posts-insider-emails-with-accusations-of-deceit-and-control/#comment-99149&quot;&gt;Mr Jesperson&lt;/a&gt;.

I am aware of many verses which say that when a person sins, they need to repent, and then they need to take appropriate redemptive and restorative action. I see nothing that suggests that when someone sins, everything they touch immediately turns to crap, and everything they ever accomplished that was of value for God is erased and means nothing. If that&#039;s actually the case, it sucks to be me and you. I&#039;m praying God will have his way with Harvest, no matter what that means. God doesn&#039;t need James MacDonald or anyone else.

I know firsthand the good fruit from Harvest Bible Chapel and the sincere faith and work of many, many godly people there. It was the most socioeconomically diverse and generous church I have ever been a part of. People were on fire for the Word and for sincere Christian living, not for James MacDonald.

You are free to believe whatever you like. Perhaps you spent time at Harvest and know more than what you are told by others. I don&#039;t know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/18/defendant-in-harvest-bible-chapel-defamation-case-posts-insider-emails-with-accusations-of-deceit-and-control/#comment-99149">Mr Jesperson</a>.</p>
<p>I am aware of many verses which say that when a person sins, they need to repent, and then they need to take appropriate redemptive and restorative action. I see nothing that suggests that when someone sins, everything they touch immediately turns to crap, and everything they ever accomplished that was of value for God is erased and means nothing. If that&#8217;s actually the case, it sucks to be me and you. I&#8217;m praying God will have his way with Harvest, no matter what that means. God doesn&#8217;t need James MacDonald or anyone else.</p>
<p>I know firsthand the good fruit from Harvest Bible Chapel and the sincere faith and work of many, many godly people there. It was the most socioeconomically diverse and generous church I have ever been a part of. People were on fire for the Word and for sincere Christian living, not for James MacDonald.</p>
<p>You are free to believe whatever you like. Perhaps you spent time at Harvest and know more than what you are told by others. I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		By: Eric Rasmusen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Rasmusen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2018 13:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/18/defendant-in-harvest-bible-chapel-defamation-case-posts-insider-emails-with-accusations-of-deceit-and-control/#comment-99161&quot;&gt;Daniel &#039;n&#039; Terry Unruh&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually, I googled Mr. Rahrer and looked for evidence of any kind that he was real. Always keep in mind that it&#039;s trivially easy to create a false identity on the web, and that it&#039;s a standard tactic for fraud in politics, business, and seduction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/18/defendant-in-harvest-bible-chapel-defamation-case-posts-insider-emails-with-accusations-of-deceit-and-control/#comment-99161">Daniel &#8216;n&#8217; Terry Unruh</a>.</p>
<p>Actually, I googled Mr. Rahrer and looked for evidence of any kind that he was real. Always keep in mind that it&#8217;s trivially easy to create a false identity on the web, and that it&#8217;s a standard tactic for fraud in politics, business, and seduction.</p>
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		By: War-El		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[War-El]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2018 11:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/18/defendant-in-harvest-bible-chapel-defamation-case-posts-insider-emails-with-accusations-of-deceit-and-control/#comment-99154&quot;&gt;Warren Throckmorton&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, mon frere. I agree. And, of course, this does not remove from anyone the responsibility of sizing up information that comes to light and responding accordingly. Which many of our friends have done and are doing. It is agonizing, but necessary. God&#039;s will be done, not mine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/12/18/defendant-in-harvest-bible-chapel-defamation-case-posts-insider-emails-with-accusations-of-deceit-and-control/#comment-99154">Warren Throckmorton</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, mon frere. I agree. And, of course, this does not remove from anyone the responsibility of sizing up information that comes to light and responding accordingly. Which many of our friends have done and are doing. It is agonizing, but necessary. God&#8217;s will be done, not mine.</p>
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