Comments on: Harvest Bible Chapel Treats Believers as Non-Believers; ECFA to Review Finances

By: RG

RG — Fri, 14 Dec 2018 13:26:54 +0000

Amy I don’t know who you are but appreciate your statements. Here are some others that may be insightful: http://www.harvestbiblechapelfraud.com/

By: A.Stacy

A.Stacy — Fri, 14 Dec 2018 11:55:08 +0000

Here is a great overview on everything in one place.

https://world.wng.org/2018/12/hard_times_at_harvest

Even if half these things were true… why is this guy a pastor anywhere, let alone employed working with people.

By: pc

pc — Thu, 06 Dec 2018 23:06:57 +0000

“after sixteen months of reflection and consultation among Christian leaders outside our church family, we decided to move past self-examination and the many changes we had made and take action to protect our church family.”

1. So they admit to making many changes based on the criticisms of the “attack bloggers?” Can’t we infer the so called “attack bloggers” were right in at least some of their criticisms because you’re making changes based on the criticisms?

2. “consultation among Christian leaders outside our church family” – Who? Mark Driscoll? Tullian Tchividjian? Ravi Zacharias?

3. “protect our church family.” If your church is a family – it’s dysfunctional. Why are you disowning and suing your family once they leave or bring up concerns and criticisms? Bad dad. Reminds me of how Mark Driscoll abandoned his church “family” once they wanted him to be accountable and not just Lord and Master. That’s the expected result of a dysfunctional family when the abused and manipulated work up enough courage to confront the tyrant.

By: Mr Jesperson

Mr Jesperson — Thu, 06 Dec 2018 17:13:00 +0000

The new Pharisees are back trying to silence opposition by branding those exposing corruption and evil as “the devil’s workers.” I get tired of all this unrepentant narcissism in action by self-proclaimed “Christian” leaders. These guys are just jerks like the original bunch of Pharisees were. Jesus was humble and He spoke out against religious corruption and their love of money. These guys love the money, the spotlight and their inflamed egos. At their age for many, like MacDonald, they are looking at the Judgment Seat of Jesus Christ coming for them fast. Everyone dies and gets judged. Even Presidents of the US cannot put it off for ever. Their is actually nothing “Christian” about any of this that they say or do.

By: ken

ken — Tue, 04 Dec 2018 10:56:00 +0000

it does more than that. Since this is a civil suit about the Church's finances it opens up the books to the defendants AND can force MacDonald to answer questions, under oath about those finances and other church practices. I suspect part of the reason for the delay in filing the suit was for the accounts to go through the books and make sure there was nothing incriminating there 1st.