Comments on: Did Your Tax Dollars Pay for This David Barton Conference?

By: ken

ken — Tue, 04 Dec 2018 18:30:05 +0000

In reply to War-El. Yes, I am quite serious. I believe you have taken a few bad examples and incorrectly used them to form incorrect views about the welfare system in the US.

By: David Rahrer

David Rahrer — Tue, 04 Dec 2018 16:28:22 +0000

In reply to ken.

I know there are a lot of hard working people who are still on welfare (generally food stamps) because they don’t earn a subsistence wage. There are even public school teachers who need welfare support.

Add to that soldiers in our armed services.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/05/24/proposed-food-stamp-cuts-would-hit-military-families.html

By: War-El

War-El — Tue, 04 Dec 2018 13:45:27 +0000

In reply to ken. I would say that I have taken some substantive true examples from over a long period of time and various vantage points, and have arrived at some misgivings about the welfare system. The misgivings I have are not idiosyncratic in the least, which would probably give me pause, but are instead shared by a great many people who actually do have a mastery of the broader facts. I know better than to draw concrete conclusions about the whole from the particulars of a part, but do not see how any conclusions about the whole would invalidate the reality of the part. If you think I am mistaken, and have links to any YouTube material I can listen to, I would definitely do that (my reading list is already overwhelming but I can listen to YouTube while I work).

By: War-El

War-El — Tue, 04 Dec 2018 12:50:33 +0000

In reply to ken. Are you being serious? I can't tell.

By: ken

ken — Tue, 04 Dec 2018 11:13:05 +0000

In reply to War-El.

“relating my personal experiences does not indicate bias.”

that is correct. Your initial posts on the subject of welfare recipients indicate your bias. Your attempting to support those claims by citing personal experiences only demonstrates your claims are based on your biases and not actual data.

“I’d start to question the particulars of the program.”

That is the problem you HAVEN’T questioned the particulars of the program. You have just used these few examples to insinuate they are representative of the entire program. You have no data to support any such claim. You haven’t looked beyond your own personal biases based on these few examples.

how many people are on welfare in this country?
how many of those people actually have jobs but still need assistance?
how many are in the situations you describe?
how did the PRWOR act effect the welfare system?

I doubt you know the answers to any of these questions. I don’t believe you questioned anything.