Oh yeah. The 2001 Spitzer’s study with most of its participants were affiliated with Exodus and its kind. I certainly remember their slogan and that they never could clarify what it really meant.

Not so. The major study of ex-gays during that period was done with Exodus participants. They didn’t do reparative therapy per se but they did try to use religion to change orientation. Remember the slogan: Change is Possible.

Exodus themselves was not engaged in changing anybody’s orientation, but they were promoting SOCE practitioners like NARTH, and Chambers admitted it.

You are right, I didn’t actually watch the video. I just know that Exodus (and many other orgs that pushed SOCE), changed how it presented itself as the science against SOCE (and about the factors that determine orientation) became harder and harder to refute.

2nd, when SIT was 1st proposed (over 10 years now), it did include SOCE therapy as part of it. Certainly SIT was more than just SOCE, however, even though you have changed your views on SOCE, it was a part of SIT when you and Yarhouse 1st proposed SIT.

It was in the video interview and definitely after shutdown. Again, considering how frank he has been since the shutdown, I’m willing to consider it was an editing issue. I’m just very sensitive to the way that comes across no matter what the reason. It was a major point of the whole deception of Exodus, both internal and external.

Re: Alan Chambers quote. The article doesn’t say when he made that quote. I.e. they may be taking the quote from some time ago (i.e. before Chambers actually shutdown exodus) rather than having actually interviewed him for the article.

The stuff above from FOTF is deceptive as hell and they aren’t the only one’s saying it.