By giving them as DD and LIttD he gave himself some plausible deniability since in the US those are almost always honorary degrees. The problem is that the majority of people looking at his page and seeing them next to his academic degrees won’t know that. And people from countries where a LittD actually is significant would definitely be misled unless they were up on US norms for that degree.

I do know academics at major universities who don’t have PhDs; however, they don’t claim the title of doctor (they may get it sometimes because people assume all professors are PhDs). If they mention honors in their CVs the first are likely to be honors by major academic societies (or at the top a Nobel prize) not honorary doctorates. Then of course there are people who have the PhD but haven’t done anything significant since.

For his TMS page to list these honorary degrees as though they are earned degrees is bearing false witness, plain and simple.

He is an opportunist using a “gospel” to stuff his pockets and pump up his already inflated ego. These are not the ways of any true follower of Jesus Christ according to Jesus Christ. We need to stop the nonsense of worshiping these guys who act more like Satan than the truly Humble Jesus. Our celebrities are self-centered and do not act out the orthodoxy of the pure gospel. This guy also has told the Holy Spirit where He can shove His gifts which is way too close to blasphemy of the Holy Spirit to me.

I don’t see anyone denying JMac his honorary docs, do you? However, why would he use a title that misleads his audience? Surely, JMac wouldn’t want to deceive anyone would he?

John Macarthur has managed to get his son-in-law paid in excess of $7,000,000 through the non-profits he controls. That IS an accomplishment well beyond most people here combined.

And as you probably remember, multiple links were posted on those threads about the legitimate use of the title, so long as it is not presented as academic.

Strangely, the comment sections on those posts appear to be empty for me. But as I recall, there were quite lengthy discussions.

Again, with everything that is wrong, why is this such a burr in one’s saddle?

I agree. But the use of an honorary degree is not necessarily illegitimate. All illegitimate uses should be abandoned. And self-aggrandizing should also be rejected. But neither precludes the legitimate use of an honorary degree.

This page is nothing but slander.

Slander is making false statements to hurt someone’s reputation, the key being “false.” What about the post is not accurate?

JMac has legitimate honorary doctorates…

Where did Warren say he doesn’t? The problem is in misrepresenting such doctorates as other than honorary, i.e. earned. This is deceptive, which one would think is antithetical to the principles MacArthur purports to hold dear.

[MacArthur] has accomplished more than most people in this thread combined.

How could you possibly know this to be true? More importantly, how would that make any difference to the facts?

Possibly, but what I remember well is that your responses to comments revealed a rather complex topic in a classroom-type setting. I believe it was in the substance of your responses that I learned enough to continue the learning. So thanks, Prof.