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	Comments on: Churches Back Out of Willow Creek Global Leadership Summit Over Handling of Bill Hybels	</title>
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		By: A Amos Love		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmmm? Leadership Summit???

Seems Jesus has a unique take on “Leaders” for **His Disciples.** 

“ONE”

In the Bible, Jesus taught **His Disciples,** 
Do NOT be called “Leaders,” for “ONE” is your Leader, that is, Christ.
And, **His Disciples** believed, and obeyed Jesus, Because..
In the Bible, NOT one of His Disciples called them self “leader.”
NOT one of His Disciples called another Disciple, “leader.”

Mat 23:10-12 NASB 
Do NOT be called leaders; 
for “ONE” is your Leader, that is, Christ. 
But the greatest among you shall be your “Servant”. 
Whoever exalts himself shall be humbled; 
and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted.

Humble - a modest or low estimate of one&#039;s own importance.

Know many? any? who take the position of leader?
Or church leader? Or christian leader? Or spiritual leader?

Who are Humble? 
Having a modest or low estimate of their own importance?

Jesus also taught **His Disciples**
John 5:41 - I receive *NOT* honour from men.
John 5:44 - How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, 
and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?

When someone acknowledges you as a “leader?” 
Or church leader? Or christian leader? Or spiritual leader?
Are you, “Receiving Honor” from men? Oy Vey!!! 
Danger, Danger...

Jesus also taught **His Disciples**
John 7:18 - He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory... 
John 8:50 - And I seek not mine own glory...

When you call yourself, tell people, you’re a “leader?” 
Or church leader? Or christian leader? Or spiritual leader?

Is that, “seeking your own glory?” Oy Vey!!!
Danger, Danger...

Why isn’t what Jesus taught **His Disciples** important?

Isa 3:12 KJV
...O my people, *they which lead thee* 
cause thee to err, 
and destroy the way of thy paths.

Isa 9:16 KJV
For *the leaders* of this people 
cause them to err; 
and they that are led of them are destroyed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm? Leadership Summit???</p>
<p>Seems Jesus has a unique take on “Leaders” for **His Disciples.** </p>
<p>“ONE”</p>
<p>In the Bible, Jesus taught **His Disciples,**<br />
Do NOT be called “Leaders,” for “ONE” is your Leader, that is, Christ.<br />
And, **His Disciples** believed, and obeyed Jesus, Because..<br />
In the Bible, NOT one of His Disciples called them self “leader.”<br />
NOT one of His Disciples called another Disciple, “leader.”</p>
<p>Mat 23:10-12 NASB<br />
Do NOT be called leaders;<br />
for “ONE” is your Leader, that is, Christ.<br />
But the greatest among you shall be your “Servant”.<br />
Whoever exalts himself shall be humbled;<br />
and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted.</p>
<p>Humble &#8211; a modest or low estimate of one&#8217;s own importance.</p>
<p>Know many? any? who take the position of leader?<br />
Or church leader? Or christian leader? Or spiritual leader?</p>
<p>Who are Humble?<br />
Having a modest or low estimate of their own importance?</p>
<p>Jesus also taught **His Disciples**<br />
John 5:41 &#8211; I receive *NOT* honour from men.<br />
John 5:44 &#8211; How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another,<br />
and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?</p>
<p>When someone acknowledges you as a “leader?”<br />
Or church leader? Or christian leader? Or spiritual leader?<br />
Are you, “Receiving Honor” from men? Oy Vey!!!<br />
Danger, Danger&#8230;</p>
<p>Jesus also taught **His Disciples**<br />
John 7:18 &#8211; He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory&#8230;<br />
John 8:50 &#8211; And I seek not mine own glory&#8230;</p>
<p>When you call yourself, tell people, you’re a “leader?”<br />
Or church leader? Or christian leader? Or spiritual leader?</p>
<p>Is that, “seeking your own glory?” Oy Vey!!!<br />
Danger, Danger&#8230;</p>
<p>Why isn’t what Jesus taught **His Disciples** important?</p>
<p>Isa 3:12 KJV<br />
&#8230;O my people, *they which lead thee*<br />
cause thee to err,<br />
and destroy the way of thy paths.</p>
<p>Isa 9:16 KJV<br />
For *the leaders* of this people<br />
cause them to err;<br />
and they that are led of them are destroyed.</p>
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		By: Living Liminal		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2018 23:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Personally, I think the church&#039;s obsession with &quot;leadership&quot; is part of the abuse problem. It leaves everyone scrambling over one another to achieve that status, leaving the lesser beings trampled into the mud.

It is interesting that Jesus didn&#039;t really talk about &quot;leadership&quot;, except to criticise those who used it to abuse, and &#039;lord it over&#039; others (Matthew 23 for example). However, he did talk a whole lot about serving, and yet there never been even one &quot;Global Servanthood Summit&quot;. I wonder why...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I think the church&#8217;s obsession with &#8220;leadership&#8221; is part of the abuse problem. It leaves everyone scrambling over one another to achieve that status, leaving the lesser beings trampled into the mud.</p>
<p>It is interesting that Jesus didn&#8217;t really talk about &#8220;leadership&#8221;, except to criticise those who used it to abuse, and &#8216;lord it over&#8217; others (Matthew 23 for example). However, he did talk a whole lot about serving, and yet there never been even one &#8220;Global Servanthood Summit&#8221;. I wonder why&#8230;</p>
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		By: Priscilla Frye		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2018 20:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All I needed to see was in the Christianity Today article referenced by Vineyard Cincinnati, that Hybels had a beach home in Michigan, a  yacht, and private jet.  I have no issue with an effective pastor being well paid but there is no reason for a church to fund a private jet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I needed to see was in the Christianity Today article referenced by Vineyard Cincinnati, that Hybels had a beach home in Michigan, a  yacht, and private jet.  I have no issue with an effective pastor being well paid but there is no reason for a church to fund a private jet.</p>
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		By: WhatUP, PhD		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2018 18:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe Ambien will sponsor the summit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Ambien will sponsor the summit.</p>
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