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		By: MG		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2018 04:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Their modus operandi is to appeal, delay, and drag things out every step of the way.  They do not have a winning case, and they know it, so all they can do is keep the money coming in as long as they possibly can.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their modus operandi is to appeal, delay, and drag things out every step of the way.  They do not have a winning case, and they know it, so all they can do is keep the money coming in as long as they possibly can.</p>
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		By: Warren Throckmorton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren Throckmorton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2018 02:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/06/22/gospel-for-asia-files-asks-8th-district-court-of-appeals-to-withdraw-sanctions/#comment-96559&quot;&gt;Mr Jesperson&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for stopping by and sharing that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/06/22/gospel-for-asia-files-asks-8th-district-court-of-appeals-to-withdraw-sanctions/#comment-96559">Mr Jesperson</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by and sharing that.</p>
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		By: Nathan Priddis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nathan Priddis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2018 00:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/06/22/gospel-for-asia-files-asks-8th-district-court-of-appeals-to-withdraw-sanctions/#comment-96562&quot;&gt;GWInsida&lt;/a&gt;.

The Special Master for the Michael Cohen investigation submitted approx 330,000 for monthly hours. That was approx 700.00 per hour split between defense and DOJ. 

If GFA had roughly comparable billing, it would be merely cost of doing business. The Cohen S/M was reviewing very substantial document inventory. Dragged on for considerable time, it could conceivably be viewed as a  profitable line of business.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/06/22/gospel-for-asia-files-asks-8th-district-court-of-appeals-to-withdraw-sanctions/#comment-96562">GWInsida</a>.</p>
<p>The Special Master for the Michael Cohen investigation submitted approx 330,000 for monthly hours. That was approx 700.00 per hour split between defense and DOJ. </p>
<p>If GFA had roughly comparable billing, it would be merely cost of doing business. The Cohen S/M was reviewing very substantial document inventory. Dragged on for considerable time, it could conceivably be viewed as a  profitable line of business.</p>
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		By: Bene D		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bene D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2018 23:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/06/22/gospel-for-asia-files-asks-8th-district-court-of-appeals-to-withdraw-sanctions/#comment-96562&quot;&gt;GWInsida&lt;/a&gt;.

Question.

I would assume Locke Lord has to abide by the wishes of their client. The law firm is going to get paid for any work done (the more the merrier), but isn&#039;t their reputation somewhat on the line?

They could say to KP - an appeal isn&#039;t in your best interests, but if he says, do it - short of dropping him as a client, if he says appeal it, don&#039;t they have to appeal?

Isn&#039;t it their job to say, this is where we are at, these are your options?

I&#039;m assuming the other plaintiffs have no say because they are: related to KP or employees of KP, with the exception of David Carroll who left GFA. I&#039;m also assuming the GFA board has nothing to say because they aren&#039;t involved in the court case. Do they sign the cheques to the law firm?

Another question.

David Carroll told Dr. Throckmorton the field office was audited by an independent accounting firm.
In his position in GFA at the time, he either knew that or he didn&#039;t, or he believed what someone else higher up (KP) told him.
He is a CPA. If he knowingly lied, then what are the consequences for him?

There is no way that this blog isn&#039;t monitored by the law firms on both sides, and various others. This appeal doesn&#039;t appear to be anything other than a stalling tactic, since the information above is in the public domain, I have to wonder what the lawyers are thinking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2018/06/22/gospel-for-asia-files-asks-8th-district-court-of-appeals-to-withdraw-sanctions/#comment-96562">GWInsida</a>.</p>
<p>Question.</p>
<p>I would assume Locke Lord has to abide by the wishes of their client. The law firm is going to get paid for any work done (the more the merrier), but isn&#8217;t their reputation somewhat on the line?</p>
<p>They could say to KP &#8211; an appeal isn&#8217;t in your best interests, but if he says, do it &#8211; short of dropping him as a client, if he says appeal it, don&#8217;t they have to appeal?</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it their job to say, this is where we are at, these are your options?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m assuming the other plaintiffs have no say because they are: related to KP or employees of KP, with the exception of David Carroll who left GFA. I&#8217;m also assuming the GFA board has nothing to say because they aren&#8217;t involved in the court case. Do they sign the cheques to the law firm?</p>
<p>Another question.</p>
<p>David Carroll told Dr. Throckmorton the field office was audited by an independent accounting firm.<br />
In his position in GFA at the time, he either knew that or he didn&#8217;t, or he believed what someone else higher up (KP) told him.<br />
He is a CPA. If he knowingly lied, then what are the consequences for him?</p>
<p>There is no way that this blog isn&#8217;t monitored by the law firms on both sides, and various others. This appeal doesn&#8217;t appear to be anything other than a stalling tactic, since the information above is in the public domain, I have to wonder what the lawyers are thinking.</p>
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		By: bacon_crispy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2018 23:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&quot;Donors are not likely interested in funding litigation.&quot;&lt;/b&gt; Page 33/44. There is finally one thing that Locke Lord has produced that we can all agree on. Yet this very law firm, Locke Lord, is engaging in scurrilous delay tactics and obfuscation that results in exactly that. Billing their client what -- $100K+ a month -- to drag this out for years!?! Donor funds are actively being diverted away to line the pockets of Locke Lord&#039;s partners via delays. Can they even see their own hypocrisy?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8220;Donors are not likely interested in funding litigation.&#8221;</b> Page 33/44. There is finally one thing that Locke Lord has produced that we can all agree on. Yet this very law firm, Locke Lord, is engaging in scurrilous delay tactics and obfuscation that results in exactly that. Billing their client what &#8212; $100K+ a month &#8212; to drag this out for years!?! Donor funds are actively being diverted away to line the pockets of Locke Lord&#8217;s partners via delays. Can they even see their own hypocrisy?</p>
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		By: bacon_crispy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2018 19:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&quot;Donors are not likely interested in funding litigation.&quot;&lt;/b&gt; Page 33/44. There is finally one thing that Locke Lord has produced that we can all agree on. Yet this very law firm, Locke Lord, is engaging in scurrilous delay tactics and obfuscation that results in exactly that. Billing their client what -- $100K+ a month -- to drag this out for years!?! Donor funds are actively being diverted away to line the pockets of Locke Lord&#039;s partners via delays. Can they even see their own hypocrisy?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8220;Donors are not likely interested in funding litigation.&#8221;</b> Page 33/44. There is finally one thing that Locke Lord has produced that we can all agree on. Yet this very law firm, Locke Lord, is engaging in scurrilous delay tactics and obfuscation that results in exactly that. Billing their client what &#8212; $100K+ a month &#8212; to drag this out for years!?! Donor funds are actively being diverted away to line the pockets of Locke Lord&#8217;s partners via delays. Can they even see their own hypocrisy?</p>
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		By: GWInsida		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GWInsida]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2018 19:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is this all that the best lawyers money can possibly buy can come up with? Locke Lord is misleading the Appellate Court by concealing that KP was on the Board of Believers Church for decades, as well as other Yohannan family members. KP&#039;s picture is displayed in all the BC properties and everyone knows that Don KP, the Supreme Metropolitan, controls what is happening. Locke Lord knows this, yet still file this misleading argument.

If GFA is truly innocent of any wrongdoing, why wouldn&#039;t they gladly welcome the appointment of an independent counsel to review their evidence? They claim they are being persecuted by evil and disgruntled people. If they are innocent, the appointment of independent counsel is their golden opportunity to make this all go away quickly and completely. They shouldn&#039;t fear it - they should actively welcome and embrace it . Unless.... they have something to hide. 

The fact is that during the time period in question, KP hoarded $376M in donations in foreign bank accounts, that were intended to provide immediate, desperately needed relief to the indigent. Donors thought they were literally saving thousands of children from death from deadly waterborne diseases. Tens of thousands of innocent children unnecessarily DIED during this time frame, while the donors&#039; money sat in foreign banks collecting dust and 6% interest (per FC-6). Once this travesty was brought to light by Warren, KP started aggressively spending that cash down, mainly by investing in real estate. That STILL did not provide any necessary relief to those who were intended to be helped by the contributions. 

The fact that a lawsuit filed in Arkansas could compel BC to start frantically spending down 9 figure balances, illustrates the degree of control GFA US effectively has over BC. BTW, GFA specifically told ECFA they would have BC engage in an immediate spend down plan.  Folks, if GFA US had no control or influence over BC, then GFA could not have made ECFA that promise, let alone executed it, as they have. 

All Locke Lord is doing is buying GFA more time to collect their nearly $1M a week in donations, from the most gullible donors who are tuning out the fancy lawyer terms like &quot;Writ of Mandamus&quot;.  In reality, their weekly donations are going towards more real estate and these expensive legal fees, with only a fraction helping the poor and destitute. 

Celebrities like Francis Chan standing by GFA despite the overwhelming amount of evidence against them, serve to fleece more innocent donors. That is scandalous. Allegedly, GFA has made contact with larger donors explaining that they are being persecuted by an evil judge who hates Christians. What will be their excuse when another judge sides with the plaintiffs and orders GFA to comply with the rules of discovery? 

Why isn&#039;t the MSM concerned about these particular children dying?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this all that the best lawyers money can possibly buy can come up with? Locke Lord is misleading the Appellate Court by concealing that KP was on the Board of Believers Church for decades, as well as other Yohannan family members. KP&#8217;s picture is displayed in all the BC properties and everyone knows that Don KP, the Supreme Metropolitan, controls what is happening. Locke Lord knows this, yet still file this misleading argument.</p>
<p>If GFA is truly innocent of any wrongdoing, why wouldn&#8217;t they gladly welcome the appointment of an independent counsel to review their evidence? They claim they are being persecuted by evil and disgruntled people. If they are innocent, the appointment of independent counsel is their golden opportunity to make this all go away quickly and completely. They shouldn&#8217;t fear it &#8211; they should actively welcome and embrace it . Unless&#8230;. they have something to hide. </p>
<p>The fact is that during the time period in question, KP hoarded $376M in donations in foreign bank accounts, that were intended to provide immediate, desperately needed relief to the indigent. Donors thought they were literally saving thousands of children from death from deadly waterborne diseases. Tens of thousands of innocent children unnecessarily DIED during this time frame, while the donors&#8217; money sat in foreign banks collecting dust and 6% interest (per FC-6). Once this travesty was brought to light by Warren, KP started aggressively spending that cash down, mainly by investing in real estate. That STILL did not provide any necessary relief to those who were intended to be helped by the contributions. </p>
<p>The fact that a lawsuit filed in Arkansas could compel BC to start frantically spending down 9 figure balances, illustrates the degree of control GFA US effectively has over BC. BTW, GFA specifically told ECFA they would have BC engage in an immediate spend down plan.  Folks, if GFA US had no control or influence over BC, then GFA could not have made ECFA that promise, let alone executed it, as they have. </p>
<p>All Locke Lord is doing is buying GFA more time to collect their nearly $1M a week in donations, from the most gullible donors who are tuning out the fancy lawyer terms like &#8220;Writ of Mandamus&#8221;.  In reality, their weekly donations are going towards more real estate and these expensive legal fees, with only a fraction helping the poor and destitute. </p>
<p>Celebrities like Francis Chan standing by GFA despite the overwhelming amount of evidence against them, serve to fleece more innocent donors. That is scandalous. Allegedly, GFA has made contact with larger donors explaining that they are being persecuted by an evil judge who hates Christians. What will be their excuse when another judge sides with the plaintiffs and orders GFA to comply with the rules of discovery? </p>
<p>Why isn&#8217;t the MSM concerned about these particular children dying?</p>
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		By: WhatUP, PhD		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2018 18:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Denied: They forgot to say &quot;Pretty please?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denied: They forgot to say &#8220;Pretty please?&#8221;</p>
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		By: Mr Jesperson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr Jesperson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2018 17:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought if there was any way possible for GFA to appeal the appointment of a special master that they would do so, just to draw the case out.  No doubt this will delay things, though it will likely get thrown out by the appeals court.  I see this whole situation as a major warning to donors everywhere.  Donors like us created this monster and getting justice done now is a long and expensive process.  Christians need to get shrewd and stop giving money based on zero proof that the ministry is real.  There must be a much greater measure of accountability then currently exists.  Most donations are made based solely on a verbal promise that the charity is real and pictures and videos that can be very easily fabricated in the third world.  I believe most of the money that the west donates for charity and missions is simply wasted and produces little to no actual good in the end by how God defines that term!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought if there was any way possible for GFA to appeal the appointment of a special master that they would do so, just to draw the case out.  No doubt this will delay things, though it will likely get thrown out by the appeals court.  I see this whole situation as a major warning to donors everywhere.  Donors like us created this monster and getting justice done now is a long and expensive process.  Christians need to get shrewd and stop giving money based on zero proof that the ministry is real.  There must be a much greater measure of accountability then currently exists.  Most donations are made based solely on a verbal promise that the charity is real and pictures and videos that can be very easily fabricated in the third world.  I believe most of the money that the west donates for charity and missions is simply wasted and produces little to no actual good in the end by how God defines that term!</p>
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