I found Dr. Olson’s comment somewhat condescending, so I’m glad you did not — certainly that kind of remark from someone so knowledgeable would tend to shut down further discussion! 🙂

Thanks for that. Just to be clear: (a) I notice just now that I’m seeing this reply of yours on Dr. Olson’s blog (if he had deleted it, he has since then restored it); (b) it’s actually true that, relative to Dr. Olson, I am “not well-versed in the history of Christian theology or in the character of liberal/progressive Christianity,” so I have no problem with that criticism — what he said just before that was (coming from him) high praise indeed. That being said, I appreciate the points you’ve made.

Otto … hope you don’t mind my responding to you on a different blog but since Dr. Olson deleted my heads-up to you on his blog, I wanted you to see the response I made to his (rather rude?) response to you … The Rev’d Michael Truesdale

Dr. Olson … I read Otto as only claiming that most liberal/mainline churches still attribute authority to a supernatural source (at least in their faith statements?), whereas you gave only a single example of a prominent liberal theologian who defines it unbiblically — 1) with respect, how do you therefore risk alienating an interlocutor you otherwise esteem by concluding he is “not well-versed” in theology or liberal faith? 2) aren’t we talking about what people in the liberal pews believe about (e.g.) authority, not theologians (who don’t speak for laity or denominations)?

I’ll just wait and see. Pretty disgusting so far.

Don’t you just wish they were not that blind, Ken. With Faux cheerleading, they cannot see the mote in their own eyes, big as it is.

I realize there are still going to be many who will ignore this inconsistency, and the fox news pundits will quietly ignore how they spread Trumps lies and say nothing. However, not all of Trump’s followers can be that blind.

The very definition of “whataboutism.”

Well, no border agents or judges have been shot or blown up over it that I know of if that is what you mean, but I’m pretty sure Franklin Graham is against abortion, so there is that. Nice attempt to distract from one issue with another. Let’s just stop caring about kids entirely until everyone figures the whole abortion thing out. That’s a great plan, Don.

Separate topics…

I believe it’s deliberate and an ‘approved talking point’. Ralph Reed just did the same thing in an online conversation with the New York Times. At one point he refers to the 2,000 kids that are separated from their families as “unaccompanied children”. Yeah, dude. They are now.