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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108356&quot;&gt;Adam Mahdavi&lt;/a&gt;.

no one is leading me.  And you are entitled to your opinion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108356">Adam Mahdavi</a>.</p>
<p>no one is leading me.  And you are entitled to your opinion.</p>
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		By: Adam Mahdavi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Mahdavi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 12:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108328&quot;&gt;Warren Throckmorton&lt;/a&gt;.

I would love to show you what I&#039;ve documented so far on Locke&#039;s Two Treatise of Governement.  

My email is: lifelonglearneradam@gmail.com

If you&#039;re serious is discussing the number of references from the Bible like you appear, then let me give you my 18 page commentary on John Locke&#039;s writing. Review it and get back to me, if you&#039;re a truth seeker.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108328">Warren Throckmorton</a>.</p>
<p>I would love to show you what I&#8217;ve documented so far on Locke&#8217;s Two Treatise of Governement.  </p>
<p>My email is: <a href="mailto:lifelonglearneradam@gmail.com">lifelonglearneradam@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>If you&#8217;re serious is discussing the number of references from the Bible like you appear, then let me give you my 18 page commentary on John Locke&#8217;s writing. Review it and get back to me, if you&#8217;re a truth seeker.</p>
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		By: Adam Mahdavi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Mahdavi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 12:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108345&quot;&gt;ken&lt;/a&gt;.

Then in the words of the person who leads you, If you&#039;re not interested in what the Bible says, &quot;You&#039;re not a serious thinker.&quot;

Think about that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108345">ken</a>.</p>
<p>Then in the words of the person who leads you, If you&#8217;re not interested in what the Bible says, &#8220;You&#8217;re not a serious thinker.&#8221;</p>
<p>Think about that.</p>
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		By: Adam Mahdavi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Mahdavi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2020 19:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108303&quot;&gt;Toni Duval&lt;/a&gt;.

Toni-please read John Locke for yourself, and YOU determine how many times Locke refers to the Bible. I&#039;m reading/studying Locke&#039;s Two Treatise of Government now. I&#039;m only on chapter three section 19 and I&#039;ve already documented over 70 references to the Biblical and Historical accounts of Adam and God in order to support Natural Liberty which Thomas Jefferson installed in the Declaration of Independence. If you want I can send you the documentation when I&#039;m complete and you can look at it yourself and determine for yourself if David Barton is telling the truth. 

Warren&#039;s self referencing you to his own blog.  I do not know Dr. Warren and I&#039;m sure he is a great  man. But I disagree with him.  I&#039;m not saying you SHOULD disagree with him, without further investigation.  Read his stuff, but don&#039;t settle for his word alone. Be a Berean. I believe David Barton is being used of God as a modern day &quot;Daniel of the 21st Century.&quot;  However, I think you should take in what Dr. Warren is saying and think about it.  

I wish you the absolute best and God&#039;s will to be a reality in your life. 

God bless!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108303">Toni Duval</a>.</p>
<p>Toni-please read John Locke for yourself, and YOU determine how many times Locke refers to the Bible. I&#8217;m reading/studying Locke&#8217;s Two Treatise of Government now. I&#8217;m only on chapter three section 19 and I&#8217;ve already documented over 70 references to the Biblical and Historical accounts of Adam and God in order to support Natural Liberty which Thomas Jefferson installed in the Declaration of Independence. If you want I can send you the documentation when I&#8217;m complete and you can look at it yourself and determine for yourself if David Barton is telling the truth. </p>
<p>Warren&#8217;s self referencing you to his own blog.  I do not know Dr. Warren and I&#8217;m sure he is a great  man. But I disagree with him.  I&#8217;m not saying you SHOULD disagree with him, without further investigation.  Read his stuff, but don&#8217;t settle for his word alone. Be a Berean. I believe David Barton is being used of God as a modern day &#8220;Daniel of the 21st Century.&#8221;  However, I think you should take in what Dr. Warren is saying and think about it.  </p>
<p>I wish you the absolute best and God&#8217;s will to be a reality in your life. </p>
<p>God bless!</p>
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		By: Adam Mahdavi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Mahdavi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2020 19:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108328&quot;&gt;Warren Throckmorton&lt;/a&gt;.

I did read the post. If you read my threads, you&#039;ll see I disagree with your entire post and have rebutted your claims, especially that part where you think Barton thinks Locke suggested to sell their children into slavery.  Locke was rebutting Sir Roberts justifications to do as you pleased with your children.  Locke merely put those Scriptures in context. Thus Barton, I&#039;m sure, would still count that as a reference to the Bible and so would I.  

If you have read the rest of the thread, I&#039;ve already conceded that GCC is a Christian University; however muddled the syllogisms from Ken were.

Being told I&#039;m not a serious thinker is gas lighting.  I&#039;m not interested in that.  I don&#039;t need people to think for me, hence why I don&#039;t rely on scholars. Rather, I listen to what they say, then make my own decisions, that&#039;s the wonderful thing about natural rights, I&#039;m free to think and I don&#039;t need anyone else&#039;s approval or acceptance to express those God given abilities or to trust them. So, if you want to throw intellectual mud, you can go jump in the lake, and I could care less if you came back up. 

So I&#039;m reading the Two Treatise of Government; I&#039;m on section 19 of chapter 3 and I&#039;ve already counted over 70 references to the Biblical idea Adam and God in order to prove natural freedom as opposed to the Natural Right of Kings.  I reject the idea that Locke only used 121 references to the Bible when if fact, every reference to Adam or God counts as a reference, not just a time where a Book, Chapter, and Verse was mentioned.  Spurgeon referenced dozens of Scriptures without referencing their location in the Scriptures, why should Barton, Locke, or myself be limited to Forster&#039;s methodology if it doesn&#039;t even line up with the New Testament&#039;s way of referencing the Old Testament?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108328">Warren Throckmorton</a>.</p>
<p>I did read the post. If you read my threads, you&#8217;ll see I disagree with your entire post and have rebutted your claims, especially that part where you think Barton thinks Locke suggested to sell their children into slavery.  Locke was rebutting Sir Roberts justifications to do as you pleased with your children.  Locke merely put those Scriptures in context. Thus Barton, I&#8217;m sure, would still count that as a reference to the Bible and so would I.  </p>
<p>If you have read the rest of the thread, I&#8217;ve already conceded that GCC is a Christian University; however muddled the syllogisms from Ken were.</p>
<p>Being told I&#8217;m not a serious thinker is gas lighting.  I&#8217;m not interested in that.  I don&#8217;t need people to think for me, hence why I don&#8217;t rely on scholars. Rather, I listen to what they say, then make my own decisions, that&#8217;s the wonderful thing about natural rights, I&#8217;m free to think and I don&#8217;t need anyone else&#8217;s approval or acceptance to express those God given abilities or to trust them. So, if you want to throw intellectual mud, you can go jump in the lake, and I could care less if you came back up. </p>
<p>So I&#8217;m reading the Two Treatise of Government; I&#8217;m on section 19 of chapter 3 and I&#8217;ve already counted over 70 references to the Biblical idea Adam and God in order to prove natural freedom as opposed to the Natural Right of Kings.  I reject the idea that Locke only used 121 references to the Bible when if fact, every reference to Adam or God counts as a reference, not just a time where a Book, Chapter, and Verse was mentioned.  Spurgeon referenced dozens of Scriptures without referencing their location in the Scriptures, why should Barton, Locke, or myself be limited to Forster&#8217;s methodology if it doesn&#8217;t even line up with the New Testament&#8217;s way of referencing the Old Testament?</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2020 18:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108343&quot;&gt;Adam Mahdavi&lt;/a&gt;.

No he isn&#039;t.  Barton is the one who misleads, misrepresents or outright lies.
As I said, I really don&#039;t care how many references Locke makes to the bible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108343">Adam Mahdavi</a>.</p>
<p>No he isn&#8217;t.  Barton is the one who misleads, misrepresents or outright lies.<br />
As I said, I really don&#8217;t care how many references Locke makes to the bible.</p>
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		By: Adam Mahdavi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Mahdavi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2020 16:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108341&quot;&gt;ken&lt;/a&gt;.

I just finished the third chapter to the first Treatise, I&#039;m at 85 references to the Biblical account of Adam and to the recognition of God as the giver of natural freedom.  I have 37 more chapters to go.  Still think Barton is off base?...

Let&#039;s do some math.....

If I have 28 references for every chapter; and
If I have 40 chapters. (Treatise 1 has 11 chapters. Treatise 2 has 29 chapters.)

That&#039;s about 1,133 references on estimation alone based on the first 3 chapters and I have 37 chapters more to go.

*That&#039;s not including the summaries and notes that precede and follow each Treaty, respectively.*

Will it be closer to Forster&#039;s or Barton&#039;s claim as to how many times the Bible is referenced?

I respect Dr. Warren, but he is misleading you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108341">ken</a>.</p>
<p>I just finished the third chapter to the first Treatise, I&#8217;m at 85 references to the Biblical account of Adam and to the recognition of God as the giver of natural freedom.  I have 37 more chapters to go.  Still think Barton is off base?&#8230;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s do some math&#8230;..</p>
<p>If I have 28 references for every chapter; and<br />
If I have 40 chapters. (Treatise 1 has 11 chapters. Treatise 2 has 29 chapters.)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s about 1,133 references on estimation alone based on the first 3 chapters and I have 37 chapters more to go.</p>
<p>*That&#8217;s not including the summaries and notes that precede and follow each Treaty, respectively.*</p>
<p>Will it be closer to Forster&#8217;s or Barton&#8217;s claim as to how many times the Bible is referenced?</p>
<p>I respect Dr. Warren, but he is misleading you.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2020 15:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108339&quot;&gt;Adam Mahdavi&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow you really didn&#039;t get the purpose of my &quot;muddle syllogism&quot; did you? 



70 references, only 1430 more to go.  Hope you document your evidence better than Barton does.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108339">Adam Mahdavi</a>.</p>
<p>Wow you really didn&#8217;t get the purpose of my &#8220;muddle syllogism&#8221; did you? </p>
<p>70 references, only 1430 more to go.  Hope you document your evidence better than Barton does.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2020 15:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108339&quot;&gt;Adam Mahdavi&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow you really didn&#039;t get the purpose of my &quot;muddle syllogism&quot; did you? 



70 references, only 1430 more to go.  Hope you document your evidence better than Barton does.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108339">Adam Mahdavi</a>.</p>
<p>Wow you really didn&#8217;t get the purpose of my &#8220;muddle syllogism&#8221; did you? </p>
<p>70 references, only 1430 more to go.  Hope you document your evidence better than Barton does.</p>
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		By: Warren Throckmorton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren Throckmorton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108319&quot;&gt;Adam Mahdavi&lt;/a&gt;.

Look up the 1782 law on manumission. Not Barton&#039;s edited version but the actual version. Look up Robert Carter and his manumission of all his slaves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2015/09/29/challenge-to-david-barton-where-are-the-1500-bible-verses-in-lockes-two-treatises/#comment-108319">Adam Mahdavi</a>.</p>
<p>Look up the 1782 law on manumission. Not Barton&#8217;s edited version but the actual version. Look up Robert Carter and his manumission of all his slaves.</p>
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