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	Comments on: Ban on Conversion Therapy for Minors Upheld in California	</title>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/08/29/ban-on-conversion-therapy-for-minors-upheld-in-california/#comment-81040&quot;&gt;Tom Van Dyke&lt;/a&gt;.

Tom - Can you give some examples of medical folks playing long shots?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/08/29/ban-on-conversion-therapy-for-minors-upheld-in-california/#comment-81040">Tom Van Dyke</a>.</p>
<p>Tom &#8211; Can you give some examples of medical folks playing long shots?</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 18:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ann#   ~ Sep 3, 2013 at 4:41 pm
&quot;My question about this is &#8211; is there anything other than the individual awareness of spontaneous, and often, enduring attractions that make up a sexual identity? &quot;
You keep using the word &quot;spontaneous&quot;, why?  Nothing I have talked about is spontaneous&quot;, certainly not identity.   Our various identities (man, woman, white, african-american, asian, latino, american, mexican, gay, straight, bi, conservative, liberal, pro-life, pro-choice, vegan, vegatarian and countless others) are things we &lt;em&gt;develop&lt;/em&gt; as we grow, they don&#039;t just suddenly happen.
&quot;when do most individuals take this awareness and determine it is an identity rather than a part of themselves?&quot;
I have know idea when &quot;most&quot; people realize their sexual identity.   Some will realize what their orientation is as teenagers, others not until decades later, and others as pre-teens.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann#   ~ Sep 3, 2013 at 4:41 pm<br />
&#8220;My question about this is &#8211; is there anything other than the individual awareness of spontaneous, and often, enduring attractions that make up a sexual identity? &#8221;<br />
You keep using the word &#8220;spontaneous&#8221;, why?  Nothing I have talked about is spontaneous&#8221;, certainly not identity.   Our various identities (man, woman, white, african-american, asian, latino, american, mexican, gay, straight, bi, conservative, liberal, pro-life, pro-choice, vegan, vegatarian and countless others) are things we <em>develop</em> as we grow, they don&#8217;t just suddenly happen.<br />
&#8220;when do most individuals take this awareness and determine it is an identity rather than a part of themselves?&#8221;<br />
I have know idea when &#8220;most&#8221; people realize their sexual identity.   Some will realize what their orientation is as teenagers, others not until decades later, and others as pre-teens.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[You keep using the word &quot;spontaneous&quot;, why?
It is a word that Dr. Throckmorton has used and it made sense to me.  Spontaneous is something that comes to us suddenly and is not planned.  Enduring is that they do not go away.   The question I posed to you was whether these spontaneous and enduring attractions (same sex or opposite sex) make a sexual identity or is something else?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You keep using the word &#8220;spontaneous&#8221;, why?<br />
It is a word that Dr. Throckmorton has used and it made sense to me.  Spontaneous is something that comes to us suddenly and is not planned.  Enduring is that they do not go away.   The question I posed to you was whether these spontaneous and enduring attractions (same sex or opposite sex) make a sexual identity or is something else?</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ann# ~ Sep 3, 2013 at 7:51 pm
&quot; Parents who give their children the benefit of therapy to understand their feelings and help put them into perspective, I feel is a very responsible and loving thing to do.&quot;
the law in question has nothing to do with that sort of therapy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann# ~ Sep 3, 2013 at 7:51 pm<br />
&#8221; Parents who give their children the benefit of therapy to understand their feelings and help put them into perspective, I feel is a very responsible and loving thing to do.&#8221;<br />
the law in question has nothing to do with that sort of therapy.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[A child can have a father who does not fit the stereotypical manly man type of father.
SGM,
Can you describe the manly man type of father?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A child can have a father who does not fit the stereotypical manly man type of father.<br />
SGM,<br />
Can you describe the manly man type of father?</p>
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