Comments on: Institute on the Constitution: Bringing Puritan Back https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/07/23/institute-on-the-constitution-bringing-puritan-back-2/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:33:18 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.2 By: Tsu Dho Nimh https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/07/23/institute-on-the-constitution-bringing-puritan-back-2/#comment-56833 Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:33:18 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14848#comment-56833 From the statutes of James I … “Incorrigible and dangerous rogues are to be branded with an R on the left shoulder”

]]> By: Warren https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/07/23/institute-on-the-constitution-bringing-puritan-back-2/#comment-56832 Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:07:48 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14848#comment-56832 In reply to Jim Ramsey.

Jim – I don’t know and am unable to search it out at present. Anyone else know?

]]> By: Jim Ramsey https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/07/23/institute-on-the-constitution-bringing-puritan-back-2/#comment-56831 Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:00:52 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14848#comment-56831 This is a real question.
What was the significance of “branded with an R on their left shoulder” ?
I assume that the “R” stood for something, but I can’t think what.

]]> By: Tsu Dho Nimh https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/07/23/institute-on-the-constitution-bringing-puritan-back-2/#comment-85017 Fri, 26 Jul 2013 13:33:18 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14848#comment-85017 From the statutes of James I … “Incorrigible and dangerous rogues are to be branded with an R on the left shoulder”

]]> By: Warren https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/07/23/institute-on-the-constitution-bringing-puritan-back-2/#comment-93167 Fri, 26 Jul 2013 13:07:48 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14848#comment-93167 In reply to Jim Ramsey.

Jim – I don’t know and am unable to search it out at present. Anyone else know?

]]> By: Jim Ramsey https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/07/23/institute-on-the-constitution-bringing-puritan-back-2/#comment-85014 Fri, 26 Jul 2013 13:00:52 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14848#comment-85014 This is a real question.
What was the significance of “branded with an R on their left shoulder” ?
I assume that the “R” stood for something, but I can’t think what.

]]> By: James Ferguson https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/07/23/institute-on-the-constitution-bringing-puritan-back-2/#comment-56830 Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:06:44 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14848#comment-56830 Thanks for sharing, Warren. I read a recent book on Roger Williams not so long ago, and his thoughts and ideas can be more closely related to the Constitution than anything in the Puritan charters. But, I guess that doesn’t stop guys like Peroutka from spreading this nonsense. It is precisely the Puritan theocratic idea of government that the Founding Fathers were hoping to overcome.

]]> By: James Ferguson https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/07/23/institute-on-the-constitution-bringing-puritan-back-2/#comment-85019 Wed, 24 Jul 2013 03:06:44 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14848#comment-85019 Thanks for sharing, Warren. I read a recent book on Roger Williams not so long ago, and his thoughts and ideas can be more closely related to the Constitution than anything in the Puritan charters. But, I guess that doesn’t stop guys like Peroutka from spreading this nonsense. It is precisely the Puritan theocratic idea of government that the Founding Fathers were hoping to overcome.

]]> By: Ralph https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/07/23/institute-on-the-constitution-bringing-puritan-back-2/#comment-56829 Tue, 23 Jul 2013 23:36:30 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14848#comment-56829 Perhaps you missed some very important history in reference to the intolerence of the Puritans of Mass. Anne Hutchinson had Bible studies at her house in the 1630s and was attracting a large number of people, including Roger Williams, Mary and William Dyer, etc. The Puritan authorities were suspecious of Hutchinson’s motives. Ann was also mid-wife to Mary Dyer, who gave birth to a stilborn and deformed child about 1637. They secretly buried the child in the church cemetary, but the Puritan authorities soon found out and surmized that this “monter” child was God’s punishment for their (Ann, Mary and the others) wicked ways.. Ann and her followers were all banished from the colony to the “latrine of New England) Rhode Island and had to dispose of their property. Many years later, when Mary Dyer had visited England with her husband William and stayed for several years and met George Fox, the founder of Quakerism, Mary returned home by way of Boston about 1658 and was quickly arrested for blasphemy for proselitizing her Quaker beliefs and was condemed to death> Her husband pleaded to the Governor for her freedom with the priviso that she would not return; However, she did return a year later in 1659 and was quickly arrested again and sentenced to death. This time her son rescued her and a year later in the spring of 1660, Mary again returned to Boston preaching her Quaker beliefs and was quickly arrested and tried and condemced to death by hanging on June 1, 1660 on Boston Commons. A large statue of Mary Dyer (Quaker Marytyr) sits next to a large statue of her friend Ann Hutchinson in front of the Mass State house. A smaller replica of this Mary Dyer statue is at the entrance to the Quaker Center in Phila, Pa. The fact that both Mary and Ann were very well educated women, which was not the norm of the time, who could read and write and speak out quite well, this was another reason the Puritan authorities found them to be a threat to their regid beliefs. As it turned out, Mary and William Dyer, Roger Williams, Ann Hutchinson and many others became the founders of Rhode Island where religious tolerance was practiced.

]]> By: Ralph https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/07/23/institute-on-the-constitution-bringing-puritan-back-2/#comment-85015 Tue, 23 Jul 2013 19:36:30 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14848#comment-85015 Perhaps you missed some very important history in reference to the intolerence of the Puritans of Mass. Anne Hutchinson had Bible studies at her house in the 1630s and was attracting a large number of people, including Roger Williams, Mary and William Dyer, etc. The Puritan authorities were suspecious of Hutchinson’s motives. Ann was also mid-wife to Mary Dyer, who gave birth to a stilborn and deformed child about 1637. They secretly buried the child in the church cemetary, but the Puritan authorities soon found out and surmized that this “monter” child was God’s punishment for their (Ann, Mary and the others) wicked ways.. Ann and her followers were all banished from the colony to the “latrine of New England) Rhode Island and had to dispose of their property. Many years later, when Mary Dyer had visited England with her husband William and stayed for several years and met George Fox, the founder of Quakerism, Mary returned home by way of Boston about 1658 and was quickly arrested for blasphemy for proselitizing her Quaker beliefs and was condemed to death> Her husband pleaded to the Governor for her freedom with the priviso that she would not return; However, she did return a year later in 1659 and was quickly arrested again and sentenced to death. This time her son rescued her and a year later in the spring of 1660, Mary again returned to Boston preaching her Quaker beliefs and was quickly arrested and tried and condemced to death by hanging on June 1, 1660 on Boston Commons. A large statue of Mary Dyer (Quaker Marytyr) sits next to a large statue of her friend Ann Hutchinson in front of the Mass State house. A smaller replica of this Mary Dyer statue is at the entrance to the Quaker Center in Phila, Pa. The fact that both Mary and Ann were very well educated women, which was not the norm of the time, who could read and write and speak out quite well, this was another reason the Puritan authorities found them to be a threat to their regid beliefs. As it turned out, Mary and William Dyer, Roger Williams, Ann Hutchinson and many others became the founders of Rhode Island where religious tolerance was practiced.

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