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	Comments on: Alan Chambers Apologizes to the LGBTQ Community	</title>
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		By: AJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AJ]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/06/19/alan-chambers-apologizes-to-the-lgbtq-community/#comment-93563&quot;&gt;William Birch&lt;/a&gt;.

If there is no Exodus, then Joe Dallas, Frank Worthen, etc. would have just as much right to speak for the former organization as Alan Chambers does.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/06/19/alan-chambers-apologizes-to-the-lgbtq-community/#comment-93563">William Birch</a>.</p>
<p>If there is no Exodus, then Joe Dallas, Frank Worthen, etc. would have just as much right to speak for the former organization as Alan Chambers does.</p>
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		By: William Birch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Birch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 20:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/06/19/alan-chambers-apologizes-to-the-lgbtq-community/#comment-79558&quot;&gt;Michael Bussee&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree that Exodus should just shut down. But I&#039;ll admit I see AJ&#039;s point. If Exodus transformed solely into a ministry that sought to heal the damage it has done to others, that might just work. I don&#039;t know, though -- that&#039;s tricky.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/06/19/alan-chambers-apologizes-to-the-lgbtq-community/#comment-79558">Michael Bussee</a>.</p>
<p>I agree that Exodus should just shut down. But I&#8217;ll admit I see AJ&#8217;s point. If Exodus transformed solely into a ministry that sought to heal the damage it has done to others, that might just work. I don&#8217;t know, though &#8212; that&#8217;s tricky.</p>
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		By: AJ		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/06/19/alan-chambers-apologizes-to-the-lgbtq-community/#comment-93561</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 20:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/06/19/alan-chambers-apologizes-to-the-lgbtq-community/#comment-79558&quot;&gt;Michael Bussee&lt;/a&gt;.

I understand where you&#039;re coming from, but I think I disagree.  If Exodus is still around, using the Exodus name, but actively speaking out against orientation change, I think that could undo a lot more of the damage than just having Alan out there as a former leader of a now-defunct organization.  I don&#039;t want to leave too big of a vacuum to be filled by RHN.  A truly transformed Exodus, even if very small, could be a very effective foil for the lies of RHN.  Just my thoughts at the moment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/06/19/alan-chambers-apologizes-to-the-lgbtq-community/#comment-79558">Michael Bussee</a>.</p>
<p>I understand where you&#8217;re coming from, but I think I disagree.  If Exodus is still around, using the Exodus name, but actively speaking out against orientation change, I think that could undo a lot more of the damage than just having Alan out there as a former leader of a now-defunct organization.  I don&#8217;t want to leave too big of a vacuum to be filled by RHN.  A truly transformed Exodus, even if very small, could be a very effective foil for the lies of RHN.  Just my thoughts at the moment.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 20:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/06/19/alan-chambers-apologizes-to-the-lgbtq-community/#comment-79570&quot;&gt;Karen&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m not Michael but I&#039;m going to respond to your questions.
In general, if someone wishes to be celibate I think that is their decision and I have no problem with it.
However, my concern is the &quot;community&quot; that wishes to support these people and the reasons &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;why&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; they are trying.  Do they believe that gays who aren&#039;t celibate will spend an eternity in hell;  will die of aids, a drug OD or some other disease; will be doomed to live a lonely meaningless existence?   If they are basing their &quot;support&quot; on a misguided and false narrative about homosexuality, then they aren&#039;t helping.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/06/19/alan-chambers-apologizes-to-the-lgbtq-community/#comment-79570">Karen</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not Michael but I&#8217;m going to respond to your questions.<br />
In general, if someone wishes to be celibate I think that is their decision and I have no problem with it.<br />
However, my concern is the &#8220;community&#8221; that wishes to support these people and the reasons <em><strong>why</strong></em> they are trying.  Do they believe that gays who aren&#8217;t celibate will spend an eternity in hell;  will die of aids, a drug OD or some other disease; will be doomed to live a lonely meaningless existence?   If they are basing their &#8220;support&#8221; on a misguided and false narrative about homosexuality, then they aren&#8217;t helping.</p>
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		By: Stephen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 18:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wish he&#039;d stop talking about &#039;same sex attractions&#039;. There&#039;s no such thing. Being homosexual is an affectional orIentation of which sex is a part. To talk about &#039;same sex attractions&#039; is as ludicrous as talking about &#039;opposite sex attractions&#039; as being in any way descriptive of heterosexuality. Indeed, there&#039;s still a lot ex-gay jargon in his letter. And I do wish he might try to understand that other people are not so enthrall led by his &#039;beliefs&#039; as he seems to be. Still, a good start. Let&#039;s see how it progresses. I look forward to the day that Tony Perkins and Maggie Gallagher do the same.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish he&#8217;d stop talking about &#8216;same sex attractions&#8217;. There&#8217;s no such thing. Being homosexual is an affectional orIentation of which sex is a part. To talk about &#8216;same sex attractions&#8217; is as ludicrous as talking about &#8216;opposite sex attractions&#8217; as being in any way descriptive of heterosexuality. Indeed, there&#8217;s still a lot ex-gay jargon in his letter. And I do wish he might try to understand that other people are not so enthrall led by his &#8216;beliefs&#8217; as he seems to be. Still, a good start. Let&#8217;s see how it progresses. I look forward to the day that Tony Perkins and Maggie Gallagher do the same.</p>
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