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	Comments on: Update on the Sovereign Grace Abuse Case	</title>
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		By: Dave		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/31/update-on-the-sovereign-grace-abuse-case/#comment-95597</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2018 01:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/31/update-on-the-sovereign-grace-abuse-case/#comment-95285&quot;&gt;Byron Harvey&lt;/a&gt;.

Determining culpability by hiding behind the statute of limitations is rather suspicous and doesn&#039;t look very Christlike to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/31/update-on-the-sovereign-grace-abuse-case/#comment-95285">Byron Harvey</a>.</p>
<p>Determining culpability by hiding behind the statute of limitations is rather suspicous and doesn&#8217;t look very Christlike to me.</p>
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		By: Byron Harvey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Byron Harvey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 23:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/31/update-on-the-sovereign-grace-abuse-case/#comment-93694&quot;&gt;StraightGrandmother&lt;/a&gt;.

But doesn&#039;t that assume that this man is guilty, in spite of an apparent lack of evidence and in contrast to the presumption of innocence, Grandmother?  You don&#039;t believe he deserves justice (whatever that entails, including complete absolution if he is innocent)?  If you, or someone you loved, was accused of somehow being involved in such a crime--would you feel the same way?  I will agree with you that I will also reserve my compassion for the victims, but I will allow for the possibility that this man is himself a victim.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/31/update-on-the-sovereign-grace-abuse-case/#comment-93694">StraightGrandmother</a>.</p>
<p>But doesn&#8217;t that assume that this man is guilty, in spite of an apparent lack of evidence and in contrast to the presumption of innocence, Grandmother?  You don&#8217;t believe he deserves justice (whatever that entails, including complete absolution if he is innocent)?  If you, or someone you loved, was accused of somehow being involved in such a crime&#8211;would you feel the same way?  I will agree with you that I will also reserve my compassion for the victims, but I will allow for the possibility that this man is himself a victim.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 20:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/31/update-on-the-sovereign-grace-abuse-case/#comment-86488&quot;&gt;Patrocles&lt;/a&gt;.

Forgiveness is not about ignoring the severity of the (alleged) offence; it is about &#039;restoring relationships&#039; with others and with God.
Those who commit heinous acts against, for example, children must &#039;pay the price that society justly exacts&#039;.  They can be forgiven, but, like the rest of us, they must also live with any consequences of their wrongdoing.  Things like the sexual abuse of children in not just a matter for the individuals concerned; it is also &#039;society&#039;s business&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/31/update-on-the-sovereign-grace-abuse-case/#comment-86488">Patrocles</a>.</p>
<p>Forgiveness is not about ignoring the severity of the (alleged) offence; it is about &#8216;restoring relationships&#8217; with others and with God.<br />
Those who commit heinous acts against, for example, children must &#8216;pay the price that society justly exacts&#8217;.  They can be forgiven, but, like the rest of us, they must also live with any consequences of their wrongdoing.  Things like the sexual abuse of children in not just a matter for the individuals concerned; it is also &#8216;society&#8217;s business&#8217;.</p>
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		By: StraightGrandmother		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StraightGrandmother]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 20:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/31/update-on-the-sovereign-grace-abuse-case/#comment-86491&quot;&gt;Byron Harvey&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ll reserve my compassion for the victims, thank you very much. As far as I am concerned they can be &quot;restored&quot; in jail. Plenty of free time for Bible study there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/31/update-on-the-sovereign-grace-abuse-case/#comment-86491">Byron Harvey</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll reserve my compassion for the victims, thank you very much. As far as I am concerned they can be &#8220;restored&#8221; in jail. Plenty of free time for Bible study there.</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/31/update-on-the-sovereign-grace-abuse-case/#comment-93695</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 20:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/31/update-on-the-sovereign-grace-abuse-case/#comment-86488&quot;&gt;Patrocles&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, Pat, that is a bad message. False dichotomy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/31/update-on-the-sovereign-grace-abuse-case/#comment-86488">Patrocles</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, Pat, that is a bad message. False dichotomy.</p>
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