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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/29/the-sovereign-grace-ministries-scandal/#comment-88757</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/29/the-sovereign-grace-ministries-scandal/#comment-86777&quot;&gt;StraightGrandmother&lt;/a&gt;.

We&#039;ll certainly have to stop calling you &#039;SGM&#039; now!
@ the other (much nicer) &#039;SGM&#039;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/29/the-sovereign-grace-ministries-scandal/#comment-86777">StraightGrandmother</a>.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll certainly have to stop calling you &#8216;SGM&#8217; now!<br />
@ the other (much nicer) &#8216;SGM&#8217;</p>
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		By: StraightGrandmother		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StraightGrandmother]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am reading the SGMSurvivors blog and OMG it is a CULT. This is total cult behavior. That is just toooo much church for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reading the SGMSurvivors blog and OMG it is a CULT. This is total cult behavior. That is just toooo much church for me.</p>
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		By: Greg D		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/29/the-sovereign-grace-ministries-scandal/#comment-85638</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 18:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/29/the-sovereign-grace-ministries-scandal/#comment-72527&quot;&gt;GK&lt;/a&gt;.

I find it ironic that those who seem to support SGM tend to provide sermons about not gossiping and using discernment. When someone speaks out against SGM they are branded as gossipers or speaking falsely. Furthermore, this issue is not as complex as you make it out to be. In fact, it is very black and white. Children have been sexually abused and SGM has glossed over the issue. Let&#039;s indeed keep praying. Pray that those who have supported SGM will see the truth and speak out against the injustice. Let&#039;s pray that justice will be served and God will be glorified.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/29/the-sovereign-grace-ministries-scandal/#comment-72527">GK</a>.</p>
<p>I find it ironic that those who seem to support SGM tend to provide sermons about not gossiping and using discernment. When someone speaks out against SGM they are branded as gossipers or speaking falsely. Furthermore, this issue is not as complex as you make it out to be. In fact, it is very black and white. Children have been sexually abused and SGM has glossed over the issue. Let&#8217;s indeed keep praying. Pray that those who have supported SGM will see the truth and speak out against the injustice. Let&#8217;s pray that justice will be served and God will be glorified.</p>
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		By: Greg D		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/29/the-sovereign-grace-ministries-scandal/#comment-56111</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jul 2013 12:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/29/the-sovereign-grace-ministries-scandal/#comment-56110&quot;&gt;GK&lt;/a&gt;.

I find it ironic that those who seem to support SGM tend to provide sermons about not gossiping and using discernment. When someone speaks out against SGM they are branded as gossipers or speaking falsely. Furthermore, this issue is not as complex as you make it out to be. In fact, it is very black and white. Children have been sexually abused and SGM has glossed over the issue. Let&#039;s indeed keep praying. Pray that those who have supported SGM will see the truth and speak out against the injustice. Let&#039;s pray that justice will be served and God will be glorified.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/29/the-sovereign-grace-ministries-scandal/#comment-56110">GK</a>.</p>
<p>I find it ironic that those who seem to support SGM tend to provide sermons about not gossiping and using discernment. When someone speaks out against SGM they are branded as gossipers or speaking falsely. Furthermore, this issue is not as complex as you make it out to be. In fact, it is very black and white. Children have been sexually abused and SGM has glossed over the issue. Let&#8217;s indeed keep praying. Pray that those who have supported SGM will see the truth and speak out against the injustice. Let&#8217;s pray that justice will be served and God will be glorified.</p>
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		By: GK		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/05/29/the-sovereign-grace-ministries-scandal/#comment-56110</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a mess.  It is human nature to look at a series of information sources and draw immediate conclusions.  This is a very long, complex set of issues.  In the middle of it all is the truth and many lies.  Many fabrications and many very accurate details.  It is the role of the believer to look at this information if called and make an informed decision if led.  For most, this does not touch them directly and they should not feel the need to be involved.  For others, who are part of this network of churches or like myself attend Covenant Live, it is our duty to pray for the will of our Lord to be done and to exercise His sovereign hand in the process.  We must guard our heart against what the scripture forbids as in judgement, gossip and other sins that &quot;easily entangle us&quot;, Heb. 12 and fix our gaze on Christ.  Only from there can we see with discernment.  The enemy is a roaring lion seeking who he may devour and is poised to bring down the name of Christ and more gloriously for him to do it within the church.  There is sin present that needs to be repented of on all fronts.  Only God can bring the conviction.  Keep praying church for those harmed and abused and pray for those who caused harm.  This must be about Jesus first and not man.  If not, the enemy will mock His name to the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a mess.  It is human nature to look at a series of information sources and draw immediate conclusions.  This is a very long, complex set of issues.  In the middle of it all is the truth and many lies.  Many fabrications and many very accurate details.  It is the role of the believer to look at this information if called and make an informed decision if led.  For most, this does not touch them directly and they should not feel the need to be involved.  For others, who are part of this network of churches or like myself attend Covenant Live, it is our duty to pray for the will of our Lord to be done and to exercise His sovereign hand in the process.  We must guard our heart against what the scripture forbids as in judgement, gossip and other sins that &#8220;easily entangle us&#8221;, Heb. 12 and fix our gaze on Christ.  Only from there can we see with discernment.  The enemy is a roaring lion seeking who he may devour and is poised to bring down the name of Christ and more gloriously for him to do it within the church.  There is sin present that needs to be repented of on all fronts.  Only God can bring the conviction.  Keep praying church for those harmed and abused and pray for those who caused harm.  This must be about Jesus first and not man.  If not, the enemy will mock His name to the world.</p>
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