Comments on: David Barton's appearance at the Army Prayer Breakfast contested https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/04/30/david-bartons-appearance-at-the-army-prayer-breakfast-contested/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Wed, 30 May 2018 19:21:35 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.3 By: Warren https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/04/30/david-bartons-appearance-at-the-army-prayer-breakfast-contested/#comment-88642 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:21:35 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14312#comment-88642 In reply to Tom Van Dyke.

Tom – I had stopped responding to you and now I remember why. You’re often caustic and accusatory without adding much substance to the threads you participate in. Your comments come across as angry rants with little substance or respect shown to those you disagree with. Enough.

]]> By: Warren https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/04/30/david-bartons-appearance-at-the-army-prayer-breakfast-contested/#comment-88641 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:21:35 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14312#comment-88641 In reply to Chris Rodda.

Chris – I think a press release on that case would be good. I am glad you took that on. Is the case resolved or still pending?

]]> By: Richard Willmer https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/04/30/david-bartons-appearance-at-the-army-prayer-breakfast-contested/#comment-87069 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:07:49 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14312#comment-87069 I would say that one thing that motivates people like me (and I presume Warren) to say what we say is that we feel that some of the behaviour of people like Barton helps to bring Christianity ‘into disrepute’. I have many Muslim friends who feel just the same way about their own ‘fundamentalists’.
For the common good to be served, there must a profound and honest dialogue between those ‘of faith’ and those who believe that a ‘secular’ understanding of life is the way forward. People like Barton do not seem to want to ‘do dialogue’, and this is IMO damaging to all of us. From the perspective of the polity, democratic principles alone can provide the framework for such dialogue.

]]> By: Tom Van Dyke https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/04/30/david-bartons-appearance-at-the-army-prayer-breakfast-contested/#comment-86940 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:06:53 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14312#comment-86940 “Accomplished” is a stretch. Ginning up phony controversies to keep the donations coming in, then skimming off more than 1/3 of the money for his own pocket.
Nice racket. Who watches the watchers?
* $252, 681 in 2012
http://www.christianfighterpilot.com/articles/files/mrffirs2011.pdf

]]> By: Chris Rodda https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/04/30/david-bartons-appearance-at-the-army-prayer-breakfast-contested/#comment-86941 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:06:53 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14312#comment-86941 Ah … I see Tom is reading Major Jonathan Dowty’s blog. Why am I not surprised? LOL

]]> By: Scotty G. https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/04/30/david-bartons-appearance-at-the-army-prayer-breakfast-contested/#comment-86939 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:06:53 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14312#comment-86939 @Chris,
Thanks for the clarification.
I rather assumed you must have only just gotten wind of this. I wasn’t trying to imply any lax response on your part. If I came across that way I apologize. I would just hate to see this fail simply due to the short notice. Here’s hoping…
’43 soldiers’…’requesting a stop’. That’s not a small number. Is their only recourse reaching out to your organization?

]]> By: Scotty G. https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/04/30/david-bartons-appearance-at-the-army-prayer-breakfast-contested/#comment-86651 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:03:54 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14312#comment-86651 I like the idea, but this is basically the 11th hour. Will S.O.D. Hagel even get to the letter before this event? I imagine he gets tons of mail.
Will you be posting any follow up?

]]> By: Chris Rodda https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/04/30/david-bartons-appearance-at-the-army-prayer-breakfast-contested/#comment-86657 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:03:54 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14312#comment-86657 @ Scotty … We didn’t hear about this until the end of last week, so the soonest we could try to do anything was Monday, which may have been too late to stop it, although we have stopped things at the very last minute in the past. We have 43 soldiers, both officers and enlisted, at Fort Leonard Wood who have told MRFF they want it stopped, and we’re trying, even though time is short. And, BTW, 35 of those 43 soldiers are Christians.
I will be posting a follow-up, whatever the outcome.

]]> By: Richard Willmer https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/04/30/david-bartons-appearance-at-the-army-prayer-breakfast-contested/#comment-55835 Thu, 02 May 2013 17:14:29 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14312#comment-55835 In a sense, I agree, Zoe – it is the Church’s responsibility to get her house in order.

]]> By: Richard Willmer https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/04/30/david-bartons-appearance-at-the-army-prayer-breakfast-contested/#comment-87217 Thu, 02 May 2013 13:14:29 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14312#comment-87217 In a sense, I agree, Zoe – it is the Church’s responsibility to get her house in order.

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